[GSBN] Prefabricated and/or Modular Natural Building Systems

Wed Jun 20 08:38:02 UTC 2018

Hi Dirk and Lars, hello Everybody!

Great discussion. Thank you.

I think I am getting a point made by Lars here. Once a grass root visionary in strawbale building starts to see potential in the prefab system, the matter isn’t really a distance, but what matters is acceptance of many compromises within which the prefab comes in.

As well as Lars I got also involved in EcoCocon, because it is great, readily available product to me and for all the reasons mentioned by Lars previously. But for me especially, one of it’s potentials is possibility of earning my living out of selling it to wide market. It doesn’t really mean that I am going to stop being involved in what I have been involved in since the start of my straw bale career - community driven, cement free, loadbearing, local straw buildings...

Prefab made by local craftswoman out of local straw and timber is fantastic achievement, so I am getting your point Dirk. I like what you are doing, but it seems to me that you have always been open to accept compromises in order to push straw bale building further within the system. Why is it then you are not able to accept possibility of having a system that is very similar to yours, but a bit different? Perhaps out of 100 compromises that brings German prefab further away from truly natural and sustainable house, EcoCocon requires acceptance of perhaps 103? … for me, it is a matter of pushing your own boundaries. How far - from the truly natural and truly sustainable building are you willing to go? What is your motivation? Would you be more happy, once EcoCocon builds their factory in Germany? Or is there a fear of competition that prefab brings into this discussion?

Best wishes to all. I am looking forward to hearing from you.
Jakub Zucha-Wihan
(to most people on this list known as Kuba)

> On 18 Jun 2018, at 10:45, Dirk Scharmer <ds at fasba.de> wrote:
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> Hey Lars,
> we already discussed that in Montargis ... :-|
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> We are currently building a 20 units co-housing project with local straw, local craftsmen and local timber. It works perfectly. Changing the building world starts in front of my door together with all the companies here and not with one company 2.000km away.
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> For me prefab of course is one possibility. But only local. From Lithuania or whereever its not sustainable it does not cover half the ideas behind straw building. For me it's just a small smell of strawbale.
> 
> Lets keep going and discussing!
> 
> Dirk
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> Von: "Lars Keller" <larskeller at gmail.com <mailto:larskeller at gmail.com>>
> An: "Min Hall" <minhall at xnet.co.nz <mailto:minhall at xnet.co.nz>>
> Cc: "Global Straw Building Network" <gsbn at sustainablesources.com <mailto:gsbn at sustainablesources.com>>
> Gesendet: 16.06.2018 12:00:38
> Betreff: Re: [GSBN] Prefabricated and/or Modular Natural Building Systems
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>> The last 4 days we mounted 250m2 of a two storey school project using prefab strawpanels.
>> 2 of us having experience with bale wall raising, the rest of the crew being builders with various backgrounds.
>> It was amazing to be honest.
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>> I agree with John that prefab has a big potential to bring our amazing building material out into the more mainstream.
>> I agree with Bill that it is not ideal to ship the panels 1500kms from Lithuania to Denmark.
>> Once demand is big enough there will be a new production line further west.
>> 
>> In reality for us the choice is not local straw bales or distant straw panels.
>> It is straw panels or not straw.
>> Almost all building materials are being trucked to Denmark from afar in the commercial building sector.
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