[GSBN] Wall Detail

[Nehemiah Stone]

Lance,
I don’t think I will “go for it.” I am trying to retire (but apparently am not very good at that). The reason I was asking is that we are selling our large straw bale home in the Central Valley of California and moving to the Coast. When we land, we want to build another, though much smaller, straw bale home. I have seen the Modcel details on line, and was interested in exploring that as an option. …but only if they were doing it locally – California.
Thanks.

Best,
Nehemiah

Stone Energy Associates
PO Box 324 Loomis, CA 95650
(916) 663-1225

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From: Gsbn <gsbn-bounces at sustainablesources.com> On Behalf Of Lance Kairl
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:13 PM
To: 'Global Straw Building Network' <gsbn at sustainablesources.com>
Subject: Re: [GSBN] Wall Detail

HI Again
Chris and Nehemiah, and all.

Having only stayed in a Modcel Tam building and had discussions with Craig and Finlay in the UK,  I feel they would be open to seeing production of the system in other parts of the world. Go for it Nehemiah.

The straw panels  used in Modcel TAM  are thinner than those available in Australia.  In other countries a wood fibre insulation board is also available , not so here.  Good or bad I am also experimenting with Magnesium oxide board.( yep carbon miles).

Modcel TAM system, Density and length of straw Chaff are critical, and I feel they have done the testing  it to get a consistent product. The Chaff is “forced in “ in order to achieve the required density and give consistent R values.

Thanks to all on the GSBN list, it’s the best “virtual conference” ever attended.
A flurry of ideas and just the discussion many of us have been seeking.

Cheers lance



From: Gsbn <gsbn-bounces at sustainablesources.com<mailto:gsbn-bounces at sustainablesources.com>> On Behalf Of Chris Magwood
Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2018 10:15 PM
To: gsbn at sustainablesources.com<mailto:gsbn at sustainablesources.com>
Subject: Re: [GSBN] Wall Detail


Hi Lance,

This is great! We priced out using the straw panels on our "dry" modules, but as they are no longer made anywhere in North America the cost of shipping (and associated carbon footprint) ruled them out. But they were definitely our first "go to" choice.

I'm wondering if you did something to "dense pack" the straw chaff? If not, will it have a tendency to settle over time? I'm excited to try to run some chaff through the same equipment used for dense packing cellulose. I also have a feeling that hemp hurd could be used this way, and would give a higher insulation value than straw chaff because of the "foaminess" of each piece of hemp hurd.

So glad to see someone has done what we initially thought about doing! Isn't that usually the case... And isn't that what makes this list so valuable?

Chris

On 2018-05-23 9:03 PM, Lance Kairl wrote:
Chris, Enga and all,
With great acknowledgement to Craig and Finlay White of  Modcel  and their TAM project.
And I trust no breach of any trademark or proprietary products.
Photos attached , sorry about the 4 MB size ,  I require tech support to make  them smaller.
While one  photo is of  an exterior sample  display of the of wall system  it may not do the system justice.

As I understand it ;  straw board lined exterior and interior, straw chaff filled cavity  ( cut to specific lengths and filled to specific densities)
Gaining narrower than bale walls with higher R values than bale walls.
Exterior timber clad , rain screen with cavity , interior clay render ( thin decorative )
All on a chassis , for theoretical moveability , but crane able onto the top of other buildings.

And yes as a panel and using owner assistance in construction.

So many inspirational people out there, so many Straw innovations. Keep up the good work.

Regards all .
Lance Kairl
Ps  You are all welcome to join us at the 2018 Ausbale  Conference  in September,
Victoria  Australia.
Checkout  www.ausbale<http://www.ausbale>.org






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