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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Lance,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I don’t think I will “go for it.” I am
<i>trying</i> to retire (but apparently am not very good at that). The reason I was asking is that we are selling our large straw bale home in the Central Valley of California and moving to the Coast. When we land, we want to build another, though
<b>much</b> smaller, straw bale home. I have seen the Modcel details on line, and was interested in exploring that as an option. …but only if they were doing it locally – California.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Nehemiah<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#385623">Stone Energy Associates<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#385623">PO Box 324 Loomis, CA 95650<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#385623">(916) 663-1225<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:DTLDocumentaST-Regular;color:#1F497D">“Poverty is a symptom of economic mismanagement and social structure.” Beatrice Webb</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Gsbn <gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lance Kairl<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Global Straw Building Network' <gsbn@sustainablesources.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [GSBN] Wall Detail<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext">HI Again <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext">Chris and Nehemiah, and all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext">Having only stayed in a Modcel Tam building and had discussions with Craig and Finlay in the UK, I feel they would be open to seeing production of the system in other parts of the world. Go for
it Nehemiah.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext">The straw panels used in Modcel TAM are thinner than those available in Australia. In other countries a wood fibre insulation board is also available , not so here. Good or bad I am also experimenting
with Magnesium oxide board.( yep carbon miles).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext">Modcel TAM system, Density and length of straw Chaff are critical, and I feel they have done the testing it to get a consistent product. The Chaff is “forced in “ in order to achieve the required
density and give consistent R values.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext">Thanks to all on the GSBN list, it’s the best “virtual conference” ever attended.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext">A flurry of ideas and just the discussion many of us have been seeking.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext">Cheers lance<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Gsbn <<a href="mailto:gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com">gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Magwood<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 24 May 2018 10:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gsbn@sustainablesources.com">gsbn@sustainablesources.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [GSBN] Wall Detail<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-AU">Hi Lance,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU">This is great! We priced out using the straw panels on our "dry" modules, but as they are no longer made anywhere in North America the cost of shipping (and associated carbon footprint) ruled them out. But they were definitely our first
"go to" choice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU">I'm wondering if you did something to "dense pack" the straw chaff? If not, will it have a tendency to settle over time? I'm excited to try to run some chaff through the same equipment used for dense packing cellulose. I also have a feeling
that hemp hurd could be used this way, and would give a higher insulation value than straw chaff because of the "foaminess" of each piece of hemp hurd.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU">So glad to see someone has done what we initially thought about doing! Isn't that usually the case... And isn't that what makes this list so valuable?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU">Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">On 2018-05-23 9:03 PM, Lance Kairl wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Chris, Enga and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">With great acknowledgement to Craig and Finlay White of Modcel and their TAM project.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">And I trust no breach of any trademark or proprietary products.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Photos attached , sorry about the 4 MB size , I require tech support to make them smaller.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">While one photo is of an exterior sample display of the of wall system it may not do the system justice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">As I understand it ; straw board lined exterior and interior, straw chaff filled cavity ( cut to specific lengths and filled to specific densities)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Gaining narrower than bale walls with higher R values than bale walls.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Exterior timber clad , rain screen with cavity , interior clay render ( thin decorative )<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">All on a chassis , for theoretical moveability , but crane able onto the top of other buildings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">And yes as a panel and using owner assistance in construction.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">So many inspirational people out there, so many Straw innovations. Keep up the good work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Regards all .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Lance Kairl<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Ps <b>You are all welcome to join us at the 2018 Ausbale Conference in September,</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-AU">Victoria Australia.</span></b><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-AU">Checkout <a href="http://www.ausbale">www.ausbale</a>.org</span></b><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span lang="EN-AU">-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-AU">Chris Magwood<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-AU">Director, Endeavour Centre<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-AU"><a href="http://www.endeavourcentre.org">www.endeavourcentre.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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