[GSBN] GSBN's future structure

Danny Buck dannycbuck at msn.com
Fri Feb 28 17:59:04 UTC 2014


I totally agree with Derek. Well said as usual.

Danny Buck

On 2/28/14 9:46 AM, Derek Stearns Roff wrote:
> I've changed the subject line, to focus on the specific question of 
> GSBNs future structure.  I'm finding it challenging to follow this 
> topic mixed in with other questions.
>
> I favor continuing GSBN as it is.  I think it serves a valuable and 
> unique niche. Our members have differing needs, and GSBN serves some 
> of those needs well.  In my view, we have created an important 
> community on GSBN, that I want to maintain.  The fact that the list is 
> quiet for weeks at a time is a virtue.  It allows important mutual 
> support and high-level discussion on topics when needed, and isn't a 
> burden during the rest of the time.
>
> Facebook serves other needs and other forms of use.  The Strawbale 
> list on Facebook has existed for I don't know how long- more than a 
> year.  It has more than 1,100 members.  Some members of GSBN are on 
> the Facebook SB list, and everyone could be, if they wanted to be. 
>  But closing GSBN would not enhance the Facebook group, it would just 
> eliminate the unique community that we have here.  You can't have this 
> kind of community and interaction on a list with Facebook's level of 
> traffic, member quantity, and mix of topics and postings.  Facebook is 
> great for reaching a lot of people in a fairly superficial way.  That 
> is important, but it isn't the only thing that is important.  GSBN is 
> important too.
>
> Derek
>
>
> On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Bill Christensen wrote:
>
>> On 2/27/14 8:10 PM, Frank Tettemer wrote:
>>> Tony, that was a wake up for me.  I hadn't even considered Liz might 
>>> not be on the list. And so I began to consider who else might not be 
>>> on the list.
>>>
>>> In an effort to leave no stones unturned, I would like to nominate 
>>> the following:
>>>
>>> Dawn Marie Smith
>>> Anna Wolfson
>>> Michael Henry
>>> Emily Rydell Niehaus
>>>
>>> I'd also like to apologize to any of the people, nominated above, 
>>> who are reading this right now,
>>> because, they are already on this list!
>>> I just didn't know.
>>>
>> Dawn and Emily are already here.
>>
>> Anna, Michael, and Liz Johndrow are not yet (or they're unidentified 
>> non-contributors at the moment).
>>
>> I'll need their email addresses or better still they can sign up by 
>> following the link at the bottom of 
>> http://sustainablesources.com/GSBN/, and then let me now and I can 
>> make them contributing members.
>>
>> Regarding the idea of combining lists:   I definitely support putting 
>> the bioenergy and SBRUs lists together.  It seems they've been 
>> redundant since shortly after the REPP list cratered for a while, 
>> SBRUs was created, and then REPP was reconstituted.
>>
>> The original reason for GSBN's existence was that those lists were 
>> bale-hammered on a regular basis by well meaning newbies.  Us old 
>> codgers (experience-wise, not necessarily chronologically) got tired 
>> of repeating the same answers again and again, and a bunch of the 
>> really knowledgeable old codgers got too busy working on codes and 
>> other big-picture stuff to wade into the fray often, if at all. GSBN 
>> became the place for 'higher level' discussions regarding the 
>> strawbale movement, techniques, etc.  And it has proven to work very 
>> well for that over the many years (since 1998 at least).
>>
>> If y'all are of a mind to open GSBN to everyone (and I know some of 
>> you have been for a fair while), or to combine it with some new SB 
>> überlist I'm cool with that too.  Opening to all just involves a 
>> couple clicks of my all-powerful mouse.  Combining lists can be a 
>> little more difficult (archive transfers and all that) but is not 
>> impossible.
>>
>> But I'd want to hear a decisive decision one way or the other from 
>> the majority of you.
>>
>>
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> Derek Roff
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