[GSBN] Prefab straw bale systems for TLS

Wed Oct 9 07:51:50 UTC 2013

In regard to Steen Møller I suggest that you call him via phone.
Steen is not very happy around computers. Phones are no problem.

Landline: +45 9719 8881
Mobile: +45 21 7373 21

I can update Noes comments and tell that Steen is getting very close to
start the very first trials.
In another 3 weeks I think he might have tried it out.

Love, Lars

On 9 October 2013 06:08, Noé Solsona <noe at anarchitecture.org> wrote:

> Hello everybody and André,
>
> True, Steen Møller has a crazy (like many of his idea's) prefab system.
> It's under development, but the idea is to make load-bering big-bale
> prefab system ! Plastered on workshop of-course ! The total !
> He is an amazing inventor, did a lot for straw in Denmark.
> I really recommend you Chris to get in contact with him (I Cc is mail) as
> he is a very kind man.
>
> All the best an looking forward to to read your article !
> Noé...
>
>
> Le 8 oct. 2013 à 22:07, "forum at lamaisonenpaille.com" <
> forum at lamaisonenpaille.com> a écrit :
>
>  Hello everybody,
>
> Thanks for all the comments on préfab.
> It reminded my that Steen Möller in Denmark (who I last saw 3 years ago)
> also had an interesting sb prefab concept. But I do not have his email.
> Anybody have his contact info?
>
> André
>
> PS. very happy that TLS is back and keen to read Chris' article.
>
>
>
> Le 07/10/2013 05:07, Chris Magwood a écrit :
>
> That's interesting that you're finding that prefab is at the high end of
> the scale, because the NatureBuilt crew are able to install them for a cost
> similar to conventional framing and lower than any of the site-built bale
> companies in Ontario... around $16-18/square foot of wall.
>
> The more expensive systems seem to be the ones that are still plastered in
> an upright position, typically on-site after the panels are installed. The
> NatureBuilt panels are plastered in a single coat in a horizontal position,
> and that's where the time/labour/money savings lies.
>
> I'm keen to talk to all the various producers for TLS...
>
> Chris
>
> On 13-10-03 2:48 AM, John Glassford wrote:
>
> G ' day Andre
>
>  I agree with your observations on the cost of straw pre-fab panels are
> at the high end of the scale as far as straw bale building goes.
>
>  Initially the development, testing and marketing side of the panels is
> costly.  Production costs to make these panels will reduce as the
> techniques improve and the output increases with experience.
>
>  We have been tinkering with all of the above for a long time now and we
> feel we are now in a good position.
>
>  The main advantage is the speed these walls go up ready for roofing in a
> very short time.  This will reflect in the end price due to the reduction
> in labour costs.
>
>  At the moment the walls only constitute 20-30% of the total build of a
> pre-fab panel straw bale building.  The other costs are equal when
> comparing methods used for the foundation, floor, roofing, windows doors
> fit out and so on.  Then that applies to any straw bale house unless it is
> a vault!
>
>  So there is a saving to be had from pre-fab straw panels if built by
> professional  builders versus owner builders.
>
>  Here most straw bale homes are competitive to any other form of building
> and most professional builders start at $1,500 per square metre and ever
> upwards.  Some owner builders in our experience have built for $500 per
> square metre using straw bales.  We also know of straw bale buildings to
> cost up to $4,000 per square metre here in Australia.
>
>  The pre-fab straw panels offers the professional builder and designers a
> good option when considering straw bales.  Our experience suggests that
> there is a good future for this technology.  We are also working on a
> portable factory system for developing nations where the cost of labour is
> low and community can get involved to build and finish a home that looks
> like concrete blocks.
>
>  Anyhow think on Andre it maybe a good way to get the professional
> builders to take up straw bale building, who knows.
>
>   Kind regards
> Susan and John Glassford
> Huff 'n' Puff Constructions
> http://www.glassford.com.au
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