[GSBN] Prefab straw bale systems for TLS

[Noé Solsona]

Hello everybody and André,

True, Steen Møller has a crazy (like many of his idea's) prefab system.
It's under development, but the idea is to make load-bering big-bale prefab system ! Plastered on workshop of-course ! The total !
He is an amazing inventor, did a lot for straw in Denmark.
I really recommend you Chris to get in contact with him (I Cc is mail) as he is a very kind man.

All the best an looking forward to to read your article !
Noé...


Le 8 oct. 2013 à 22:07, "forum at lamaisonenpaille.com" <forum at lamaisonenpaille.com> a écrit :

> Hello everybody,
> 
> Thanks for all the comments on préfab.
> It reminded my that Steen Möller in Denmark (who I last saw 3 years ago) also had an interesting sb prefab concept. But I do not have his email.
> Anybody have his contact info?
> 
> André 
> 
> PS. very happy that TLS is back and keen to read Chris' article.
> 
> 
> 
> Le 07/10/2013 05:07, Chris Magwood a écrit :
>> That's interesting that you're finding that prefab is at the high end of the scale, because the NatureBuilt crew are able to install them for a cost similar to conventional framing and lower than any of the site-built bale companies in Ontario... around $16-18/square foot of wall.
>> 
>> The more expensive systems seem to be the ones that are still plastered in an upright position, typically on-site after the panels are installed. The NatureBuilt panels are plastered in a single coat in a horizontal position, and that's where the time/labour/money savings lies.
>> 
>> I'm keen to talk to all the various producers for TLS...
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On 13-10-03 2:48 AM, John Glassford wrote:
>>> 
>>> G ' day Andre
>>> 
>>> I agree with your observations on the cost of straw pre-fab panels are at the high end of the scale as far as straw bale building goes.
>>> 
>>> Initially the development, testing and marketing side of the panels is costly.  Production costs to make these panels will reduce as the techniques improve and the output increases with experience.
>>> 
>>> We have been tinkering with all of the above for a long time now and we feel we are now in a good position.
>>> 
>>> The main advantage is the speed these walls go up ready for roofing in a very short time.  This will reflect in the end price due to the reduction in labour costs.
>>> 
>>> At the moment the walls only constitute 20-30% of the total build of a pre-fab panel straw bale building.  The other costs are equal when comparing methods used for the foundation, floor, roofing, windows doors fit out and so on.  Then that applies to any straw bale house unless it is a vault!
>>> 
>>> So there is a saving to be had from pre-fab straw panels if built by professional  builders versus owner builders.
>>> 
>>> Here most straw bale homes are competitive to any other form of building and most professional builders start at $1,500 per square metre and ever upwards.  Some owner builders in our experience have built for $500 per square metre using straw bales.  We also know of straw bale buildings to cost up to $4,000 per square metre here in Australia.
>>> 
>>> The pre-fab straw panels offers the professional builder and designers a good option when considering straw bales.  Our experience suggests that there is a good future for this technology.  We are also working on a portable factory system for developing nations where the cost of labour is low and community can get involved to build and finish a home that looks like concrete blocks. 
>>> 
>>> Anyhow think on Andre it maybe a good way to get the professional builders to take up straw bale building, who knows.  
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Susan and John Glassford
>>> Huff 'n' Puff Constructions
>>> http://www.glassford.com.au
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