[GSBN] Prefab straw bale systems for TLS

[john rehorn]

Thanks for the reminder, Chris.  I did exactly as you suggested and subscribed.  I'm looking forward to reading your work again.  Just remember, it's spelled Endeavor Center south of the border, ha ha.

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John
 
On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Chris Magwood wrote:

> This is the reason I'm keen to do an overview of prefab builders around the world for TLS... there are so many different approaches and business models.
> 
> The great thing about prefab, from my point of view, is that it suits a model of micro-factories, rather than large centralized production. Built regionally this way, labour costs would reflect reasonable expectations for that area without cross "wage zones" and embedding lots of shipping costs/impacts.
> 
> I know that NatureBuilt pays its employees quite well... in keeping with or better than most people would be getting on a site built job. It's an important part of a business model that attempts to do the right thing by the environment and people. 
> 
> Keep your eye out for the prefab article in an upcoming TLS issue. Better subscribe now!
> 
> Chris
> 
> On 13-10-07 8:56 PM, jfstraube wrote:
>> 
>> A very wise comment by Lance, IMHO.
>> Labor costs, competitive material costs, and competitive wall system costs all vary widely in my experience.
>> In the US and Canada, there are projects where $400/sf (!) of wall area are budgeted, and others were it is tough to get $20.  Labor rates vary from under $20 to over $60/hr and productivity may vary by a factor of two.
>> The construction costs in central Stuggart are much much more than downtown Kansas City (real examples for me), and the costs of housing in San Francisco/Boston infill has almost nothing to do with suburban New Mexico.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2013-10-07, at 7:44 PM, Lance Kairl wrote:
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>>> Greetings and All,
>>> It is my understanding the NatureBuilt crew may not be working for standard industry wages and conditions,
>>> And or your industry rates are rather different than ours...the product cost is a result of all ...all the input costs.
>>> As with one panel system here in Australia , owners and volunteers , can assist in the construction and rendering of the panels,
>>> This certainly affects the end cost of the product.
>>>  
>>> For some countries , definitely including Australia” our level of insulation for “ cookie cutter houses” is around R 2.5 metric ( R 10 imperial)
>>> Compared to 5 -6 times that for a straw bale wall.  Our costing’s are not comparing Like to Like  in terms of insulation value.
>>> No one tries to achieve the same level of insulation here with other insulating materials.
>>>  
>>> Thus another great advantage for Panel bale wall systems in the cold climates.
>>>  
>>> Cheers lance
>>> House of Bales.
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>> John Straube
>> www.BuildingScience.com
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