[GSBN] GSBN name and scope
Bob Theis
bob at bobtheis.net
Thu Nov 24 01:51:31 UTC 2011
I made it ( up ) with my own two hands.
Bob
On Nov 23, 2011, at 1:18 PM, martin hammer wrote:
> Bob, Did you invent that? Sustain a bale? Excellent. Up there with Matts and Judy’s Out on Bale, (un)limited. - MH
>
>
> On 11/23/11 12:38 PM, "Bob Theis" <bob at bobtheis.net> wrote:
>
>> The fact is, we rarely talk about straw here: we're talking about what goes under, over, in it and on it. We're still getting to know an insulation ( and plaster substrate ) that is not inert.
>>
>> ( It's worth remembering that in historic terms, ANY insulation is a new element in the building envelope, and we're still muddling our way through the implications of this newcomer. I point out in seminars that the ice houses in New England were double walled with 12-18 inches of sawdust between, when the adjacent houses had only spiderwebs in the wall cavities. )
>>
>> I'm with Graeme, though, in being leery of generics like sustainable ( sustain a bale? ). Keeping "straw" in the title steers things away from gizmo green.
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>> Bob
>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Tom Woolley wrote:
>>
>>> This looks like being an interesting debate
>>>
>>> Our aim in the Uk in establishing the ASBP
>>> www.asbp.org.uk <http://www.asbp.org.uk/>
>>> is to bring together the whole community using/producing straw, hemp earth, lime, timber and wood fibre and other low impact sustainable building methods.
>>> In this way we are stronger and are able to take on the mountainous battles that lie ahead
>>>
>>> Tom Woolley
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 Nov 2011, at 19:06, martin hammer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tim,
>>>>
>>>> Good thoughts. The discussions on this list have ranged far and wide from straw bale for some time, but always regarding subject matter that relates to the important issues straw bale building encompasses. A name change, and an official acknowledgement of the broadening of scope, seems appropriate if not overdue. In fact I thought the B in GSBN already stood for Building (not Bale), just as CASBA has always stood for the California Straw Building Association.
>>>>
>>>> If we wanted to broaden the scope in name even further, but not lose the acronym, it could be the Global Sustainable Building Network. In the end a rose by any other name is still a rose. Most important is the collective acknowledgment of scope, and the represented realms from which members participate.
>>>>
>>>> Martin Hammer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/23/11 10:38 AM, "David Eisenberg" <strawnet at aol.com <x-msg://1046/strawnet@aol.com> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had similar thoughts related to the artificial boundaries we tend to erect around subjects that typically extend well beyond our central focus. I like the transition you suggest, to Global Straw Building Network - still GSBN, but much more appropriately more inclusive. I'll cast my vote for this as well as adding Art Ludwig, John Fordice and Michael Smith.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Eisenberg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Tim Owen-Kennedy <timok33 at gmail.com <x-msg://1046/timok33@gmail.com> >
>>>>> To: Global Straw Building Network <GSBN at sustainablesources.com <x-msg://1046/GSBN@sustainablesources.com> >
>>>>> Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2011 11:30 am
>>>>> Subject: Re: [GSBN] Nomination of Paula Baker-Laporte
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd Love to have Paula as part of this group.
>>>>>
>>>>> It brings up another question I've been wanting to pose which I think is pertinent to the down turn in participation and energy at CASBA and presumably around the world in Straw Bale specifically. I haven't done an only Straw Bale building for a while and don't consider myself a straw bale builder. Straw is the most common insulation I use in the Natural and green buildings I design and build. More and More I think of my buildings as more or less insulative, massive, and or structural substrates for plaster. I know some don't plaster their bales but as cavalier as I am I still don't think that is worth the savings even if you want wood cladding. The most interesting and valuable discussions on this list for me are often the ones that are barely connected to straw bale. And I would hate to loose this community of collaboration or keep people from posing their green or natural building quandaries to this esteemed group if they don't have anything to do with straw bale.
>>>>>
>>>>> SO, I would propose we change our name to the Global Straw Building Network (to minimize the shift) and open our ranks to the world of excellent Natural Builders that are trying to look deeply and globally at the scalability of local building systems and keeping them evolving with Building Science.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if this Idea isn't too offensive, there's a few like Michael Smith, Art Ludwig, and John Fordice and others.
>>>>>
>>>>> I might be contradicting my desire for fewer and more efficient communications for this group but consolidating straw building techniques has become an itch I can't keep from scratching.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happiness, health, and humor to you all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:46 PM, <strawnet at aol.com <x-msg://1046/strawnet@aol.com> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I second the nomination. Thanks Martin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Eisenberg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: martin hammer <mfhammer at pacbell.net <x-msg://1046/mfhammer@pacbell.net> >
>>>>>> To: GSBN <GSBN at SustainableSources.com <x-msg://1046/GSBN@SustainableSources.com> >
>>>>>> Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 11:40 pm
>>>>>> Subject: [GSBN] Nomination of Paula Baker-Laporte
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I nominate Paula Baker-Laporte to the GSBN. As I said in my previous e-mail Paula is an architect and leading practitioner (along with her husband and builder Robert Laporte) of “light clay” construction in the US. You can see Paula and Robert's beautiful work at www.econesthomes.com <http://www.econesthomes.com/> <http://www.econesthomes.com <http://www.econesthomes.com/> > , and in their book EcoNest. Having a leading authority on this method of construction would be a great addition to the GSBN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin Hammer
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