[GSBN] Derek's concerns (was: your comments on gsbn for mark)

[Derek Roff]

Thanks, Mark.  I'll admit that I was a bit grumpy when I posted my 
message last night.  (I bristle when anyone attacks the Duck).  But 
my preferences for understanding who is involved in a discussion 
remain.  I'm glad to know something about EJ, and do hope we can meet 
someday.  I know email errors can happen any time- I make several 
each week.  It was the juxtaposition of the unsigned email from ej 
and Mark's quoting the address free message from James, that made me 
wonder what was going on.

I just Googled the GSBN Archives, and the newest message that I could 
find was dated 2007. (While there is a "Date Index" for the archive, 
no dates are shown, except when opening individual messages.) 
However, from the GSBN Info Page, there is a link to a different GSBN 
Archive, which has messages from 2008 and 2009.  It is pretty 
current.  In fact, I contains some messages sent in the last twelve 
hours that I haven't received yet in my subscribed email account. 
Since Mark didn't mention James in his first posting on the topic of 
James' building technique, even by first name, I'm still curious 
about the mechanisms at play.  Joyce quoted the newspaper article, 
which did have the name, so perhaps that plus Google is the 
mechanism.  Thanks again, Mark, for helping to trace the arc of this 
discussion.

Derelict

Derek Roff
Language Learning Center
Ortega Hall 129, MSC03-2100
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
505/277-7368, fax 505/277-3885
Internet: derek at unm.edu


--On Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:36 AM -0400 Mark Piepkorn 
<mark at buildinggreen.com> wrote:

> At 02:22 AM 6/20/2009, Derek Roff wrote:
>> Someone forwarded something from this so-called private list, to
>> James, or someone else who eventually got some comments to James.
>
>          Bill C can correct anything I've not got quite right in
> this: GSBN is a closed list with public archives. I'm assuming the
> archives are crawled by the search engines, and though I didn't ask
> James, I imagine he found my post on a web search, or has a Google
> alert for his name set up, or something like that. If he didn't, he
> could have. If you'd like, I'll ask him. Or he might see us
> discussing it himself in the archive.
>
>
>> James responded in some way (not directly to Mark), which got to
>> the  list manager, who forwarded the message to Mark.
>
>          He sent the reply to the GSBN address, which was bounced
> to Bill, as all non-member posts are. (The public archives obscure
> posters' email addresses, so James couldn't have contacted me
> directly from there - though I'm easily findable everywhere else on
> the web.) Then Bill contacted me. I wanted to pursue James' offer
> to give his side of things, and to share it with GSBN (which is
> only fair). The most hoop-free way to do that is direct contact
> with James and then sharing those exchanges with the GSBN community.
>
>
>> Not long after receiving Mark's response, I got another GSBN
>> posting  from <ejgeorge at riseup.net>. So far as I can tell, this is
>> a  reposting of Mark's message, with a different first line and
>> the  lack of some of Mark's formatting.
>
>          I believe ej made a simple mistake; she may have been
> intending to forward it to the regional natural building group she
> represents (NBNE). But she's legit, and a totally cool person. I
> hope the two of you get to meet sometime, and that I'm there when
> it happens.
>
>
>          I think I've covered everything, by inference if not
> directly. Have I?
>
> Mark
>
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