[GSBN] Eathen floors - GSBN Contd

[Bill Steen]

Andy,
I must have never gotten my hands on that polymer because I’d forgotten about it.
I came across an engineer who now grows organic veggies and makes compost who in his prior life was sealing dirt roads with a mix of pine resins. Have never managed to connect with him.

Bill Steen
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> On Sep 9, 2019, at 7:23 AM, Andy <andy at ecodesignarchitects.co.za> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill
> I found the thread about the sealing of earthen floors some years back now
> to which your contribution was invaluable,  a most interesting topic.
> 
> I was re-reading some of the emails and in your last posting you spoke about
> possibly experimenting with a polymer that a mine in Mexico were using.
> What have you discovered since and what has your experience been with using
> catalysts to assist the drying/curing process of the linseed oil?
> 
> Best regards
> Andy Horn
> 
> www.ecodesignarchitects.co.za
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GSBN-bounces at greenbuilder.com [mailto:GSBN-bounces at greenbuilder.com]
> On Behalf Of Bill Steen
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 10:59 PM
> To: GSBN at greenbuilder.com
> Subject: [GSBN] earthen floors
> 
> In short, I think a lot has to do with how densely compacted the  
> surface of the floor is.  Close the pores and the oil doesn't  
> penetrate much.
> For a good test, would be best to repeat on floors where the porosity  
> of the surface is different.
>  A lot will have to do with the quantity of aggregate in the mix and  
> size of the particles, therefore size of the pores.
> But hey, test it and see what works for you.  We've had great luck and  
> penetration with full strength on the first coat.
> Never found much cause to change it.
> As for linseed oil in the mix, question would be how thick is the  
> application, you could burn up a lot of oil doing it that way.
> In repairing floors we've sometimes included linseed oil in the mix  
> with good results, but the applications have been very thin.
> Nonetheless, they have worked well.
> And if you want to get a lot more mileage out of the linseed oil, use  
> an emulsifier to combine it with the water.
> Otherwise you'll get poor dispersion of the oil.  Casein is ideal for  
> this, works really nice, makes clean up easy.
> We've used it in plasters over the years with good results, but at 10%  
> by volume of the water, I would not consider it strong enough for a  
> floor.
> Once again, if you're tempted to try it, experiment and see what you  
> get.
> In the thin coats we've applied we were using up to 50%, but found it  
> still needed a coat of oil to make it work well.
> I think the field is wide open for experimentation, just would take  
> some time and dedication.
> At the moment I'm looking at a polymer being used here in Mexico to  
> stabilize dusty soils at a mine, was very impressive, don't know what  
> makes it up, but will know more soon.
> But you know, what conclusion I've come to over the years when it  
> comes to this stuff, especially working in Mexico.
> When it comes down it, more often than not, one goes with what's  
> there, convenient, cost effective and not too much hassle.
> I'll leave it at that for now.
> 
> B....
> Bill Steen
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> www.caneloproject.blogspot.com
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