[GSBN] Reference projects for big scale traffic noise barriers.

Benedikt Kaesberg beka at fasba.de
Mon Mar 25 08:21:32 UTC 2019


Hi Bohdan,

yes, it's quite restrictive to have to comply to specified components in 
the certificate. In order to have more allowable variations, we asked 
for an expert opinion. It says that other lime or clay plasters are 
okay. Right now, there is just the German version (attached). But we 
want to translate it into English soon.

As far as I know in Germany (and Europe) there is no general fire 
resistance standard given to a render layer.  Correct me, if I'm wrong. 
(There are for gipsum boards.)

Best regards

Benedikt



Am 24.03.19 um 23:25 schrieb Bohdan Dorniak:
>
> Thanks Benedikt
>
> We has viewed this report previously.
>
> Our issue here in Australia is to obtain the “Grafix” plaster. It is 
> not available unless imported at a great cost.
>
> What I was wondering if there  are any approved tests to a government 
> standard of fire resistance of “Plaster” generally to give a 30, 90 
> fire resistance?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bohdan
>
> *From:*Gsbn [mailto:gsbn-bounces at sustainablesources.com] *On Behalf Of 
> *Benedikt Kaesberg
> *Sent:* Saturday, 23 March 2019 6:08 AM
> *To:* gsbn at sustainablesources.com
> *Subject:* Re: [GSBN] Reference projects for big scale traffic noise 
> barriers.
>
> Hi Bogdan,
>
> we did some testing in Germany. The test reports are all in German, 
> but the certificate that is based on the test reports has been 
> translated (in Australia). See attached.
>
> Best regards
>
> Benedikt
>
> Am 22.03.19 um 00:00 schrieb Bohdan Dorniak:
>
>     Hi Martin and all
>
>     Are you aware of any testing that has been done on renders for fire?
>
>     Kind regards
>
>     Bohdan
>
>     *From:*Gsbn [mailto:gsbn-bounces at sustainablesources.com] *On
>     Behalf Of *Martin Hammer
>     *Sent:* Friday, 22 March 2019 1:58 AM
>     *To:* Lars Keller; GSBN
>     *Subject:* Re: [GSBN] Reference projects for big scale traffic
>     noise barriers.
>
>     Hi Lars,
>
>     Rick Green, a California farmer and builder (including straw bale)
>     was involved in a SB sound barrier highway wall about 15 years
>     ago. Rick did exceptional work over the years and was a good
>     friend of the California straw bale community. He passed away last
>     year at too young an age.
>
>     I’ve attached a photo Rick sent me in 2013 of the SB highway wall,
>     though there is a dearth of information about it, and I don’t know
>     if it even still exists. See my email exchanges with Rick below.
>
>     It seems, from my last email below, someone from the GSBN inquired
>     about this in 2013.
>
>     By the way, a 5 meter high free-standing SB wall has me concerned.
>     I wonder how/if it will be braced for out-of-plane wind loads (and
>     seismic if in a moderate to high seismic location).
>
>     Martin
>
>     */Martin Hammer, Architect
>     /*1348 Hopkins St
>     Berkeley, CA  94702
>
>     510-684-4488 (mobile)
>
>     On 3/20/2013 2:35 AM, martin hammer wrote:
>
>     Hi Rick -
>
>     Did you participate in the construction of a straw bale highway
>     wall in
>     Nevada some years ago, or know anything about it?
>
>     I found this on your website:
>
>     LAS VEGAS VALLEY WATER DISTRICT
>     Las Vegas, NV
>
>     4,000 foot long - 10,000 rice straw bales – sound wall for Hwy.
>     95. Expected completion 2002.
>
>     Thanks.
>     Martin Hammer
>
>         On 3/20/13 7:59 AM, "Rick Green" <greenstraw at hughes.net
>         <applewebdata://3016B570-DDF9-4C20-9BF3-53CCCFEA653D/greenstraw@hughes.net>>
>         wrote:
>
>         Martin,
>          The project is located at the north end of the Las Vegas
>         Springs Preserve at the junction of Hwy 95 and Valley View.
>          We did a total of seven buildings within the Desert Living
>         Center made from straw bale, rammed earth, or a combination of
>         the two.  A web search for the Desert Living Center should
>         give you a lot of information.  I will locate some pictures
>         and get them down to you.
>          The wall was built before the buildings and was completed I
>         believe in 2004.  The sections were ten feet wide and varied
>         in height, so we made 1/2 bales here and shipped them as full
>         blocks, to the installers only had to cut the outside added
>         strings, and could then just stack the bales.  There were
>         10,000 bales total, and I think we made up 4,000 half bales.
>          The wall is functioning well, and from the Hwy 95 side is
>         very attractive, as it displays colorful precast concrete
>         panels with customizable insets, which advertise coming
>         attractions at the Preserve.
>         The rough surface on the south side of the wall was
>         intentional, to absorb the intense heat, rather than reflect
>         it back on the plants close to it.  As far as sound
>         attenuation, the wall performs very well, as you might expect.
>          I have a lot of first hand information on the Desert Living
>         Center if that is of interest to you.
>         Take care,
>          Rick
>
>         *From: *Martin Hammer <mfhammer at pacbell.net
>         <mailto:mfhammer at pacbell.net>>
>         *Date: *Wednesday, March 20, 2013 at 3:33 PM
>         *To: *Rick Green <greenstraw at hughes.net
>         <mailto:greenstraw at hughes.net>>
>         *Subject: *Re: SB highway wall in Nevada
>
>         Rick -
>
>         I really appreciate this. Amazing wall. I saw drawings of the
>         Desert Living Center on the internet, but no photos. I’m sure
>         I could find photos if I looked. Both the wall and the Desert
>         Living Center are great projects.
>
>         As far as you know, the bales have not rotted?  Assuming it
>         has been a success (performance and relative cost) I wonder
>         why it hasn’t been replicated elsewhere. Do you have a
>         cross-section drawing of the wall that you’re able to share?
>
>         My inquiry came from a colleague in Australia who asked about
>         the highway wall, and is on the Global Straw Building Network
>         (about 120 straw bale building experts from around the world).
>          Do you have interest in being a member of this group? (with
>         informed, interesting e-mail discussion that ebbs and flows,
>         that you can participate in or not)
>
>         Thanks again.
>
>         Martin
>
>     *From: *Gsbn <gsbn-bounces at sustainablesources.com
>     <mailto:gsbn-bounces at sustainablesources.com>> on behalf of Lars
>     Keller <larskeller at gmail.com <mailto:larskeller at gmail.com>>
>     *Date: *Thursday, March 21, 2019 at 5:41 AM
>     *To: *GSBN <GSBN at SustainableSources.com
>     <mailto:GSBN at SustainableSources.com>>
>     *Subject: *[GSBN] Reference projects for big scale traffic noise
>     barriers.
>
>     *Hi all,*
>
>     I have been contacted by an architect who is researching whether
>     to use straw in a 900m long and 5meter tall noice barrier next to
>     a road.
>
>     Provided there is a dry foundation and a healthy roof i think
>     great yes.
>
>     The architect would love to see, that it has already been done
>     somewhere else in the world.
>
>     I think its been dony many places.
>
>     Can anyone guide me to a good reference project ?
>
>     Best, Lars Keller
>
>     Small Planet
>
>     jomorandin at gmail.com <mailto:jomorandin at gmail.com>
>     larskeller at gmail.com <mailto:larskeller at gmail.com>
>
>     Lars   +45 2024 0505 (mobile/handy)
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