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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Bohdan,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">yes, it's quite restrictive to have
to comply to specified components in the certificate. In order
to have more allowable variations, we asked for an expert
opinion. It says that other lime or clay plasters are okay.
Right now, there is just the German version (attached). But we
want to translate it into English soon.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">As far as I know in Germany (and
Europe) there is no general fire resistance standard given to a
render layer. Correct me, if I'm wrong.
(There are for gipsum boards.)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Best regards</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Benedikt</div>
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Am 24.03.19 um 23:25 schrieb Bohdan Dorniak:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks
Benedikt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We
has viewed this report previously.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Our
issue here in Australia is to obtain the “Grafix” plaster.
It is not available unless imported at a great cost.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What
I was wondering if there are any approved tests to a
government standard of fire resistance of “Plaster”
generally to give a 30, 90 fire resistance?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kind
regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bohdan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
lang="EN-US"> Gsbn
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com">mailto:gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Benedikt Kaesberg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 23 March 2019 6:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gsbn@sustainablesources.com">gsbn@sustainablesources.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [GSBN] Reference projects for big
scale traffic noise barriers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Bogdan,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">we did some testing in Germany. The test
reports are all in German, but the certificate that is based
on the test reports has been translated (in Australia). See
attached. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Benedikt<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 22.03.19 um 00:00 schrieb Bohdan
Dorniak:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi
Martin and all</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Are
you aware of any testing that has been done on renders for
fire?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kind
regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Bohdan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> Gsbn [<a
href="mailto:gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Hammer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 22 March 2019 1:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lars Keller; GSBN<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [GSBN] Reference projects for big
scale traffic noise barriers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Hi
Lars,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Rick
Green, a California farmer and builder (including straw
bale) was involved in a SB sound barrier highway wall
about 15 years ago. Rick did exceptional work over the
years and was a good friend of the California straw bale
community. He passed away last year at too young an age.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I’ve
attached a photo Rick sent me in 2013 of the SB highway
wall, though there is a dearth of information about it,
and I don’t know if it even still exists. See my email
exchanges with Rick below.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">It
seems, from my last email below, someone from the GSBN
inquired about this in 2013.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">By
the way, a 5 meter high free-standing SB wall has me
concerned. I wonder how/if it will be braced for
out-of-plane wind loads (and seismic if in a moderate to
high seismic location).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Martin</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Martin
Hammer, Architect<br>
</span></i></b><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:-webkit-standard">1348
Hopkins St<br>
Berkeley, CA 94702</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">510-684-4488
(mobile)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On
3/20/2013 2:35 AM, martin hammer wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Hi
Rick -<br>
<br>
Did you participate in the construction of a straw
bale highway wall in<br>
Nevada some years ago, or know anything about it?<br>
<br>
I found this on your website:<br>
<br>
LAS VEGAS VALLEY WATER DISTRICT<br>
Las Vegas, NV<br>
<br>
4,000 foot long - 10,000 rice straw bales – sound wall
for Hwy. 95. Expected completion 2002.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
Martin Hammer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On
3/20/13 7:59 AM, "Rick Green" <<a
href="applewebdata://3016B570-DDF9-4C20-9BF3-53CCCFEA653D/greenstraw@hughes.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">greenstraw@hughes.net</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Martin,<br>
The project is located at the north end of the Las
Vegas Springs </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Preserve
at the junction of Hwy 95 and Valley View. We did a
total of seven building</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">s
within the Desert Living Center made from straw bale,
rammed earth, or a combination of the two. A web
search for the Desert Living Center should give you a
lot of information. I will locate some pictures and
get them down to you.<br>
The wall was built before the buildings and was
completed I believe in 2004. The sections were ten
feet wide and varied in height, so we made 1/2 bales
here and shipped them as full blocks, to the installer</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">s
only had to cut the outside added strings, and could
then just stack the bales. There were 10,000 bales
total, and I think we made up</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> 4,000
half bales. The wall is functioning well, and from
the Hwy 95 side is very attractive, as it displays
colorful precast concrete panels with customizable
insets, which advertise coming attractions at the
Preserve.<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">The
rough surface on the south side of the wall was
intentional, to absorb the intense heat, rather than
reflect it back on the pl</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">ants
close to it. As far as sound attenuation, the wall
performs very well, as you might expect.<br>
I have a lot of </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">first
hand information on the Desert Living Center if that
is of interest to you.<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Take
care,<br>
Ri</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">ck</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From: </span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Martin
Hammer <<a href="mailto:mfhammer@pacbell.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">mfhammer@pacbell.net</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, March 20, 2013 at 3:33 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Rick Green <<a
href="mailto:greenstraw@hughes.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">greenstraw@hughes.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: SB highway wall in Nevada</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Rick
-<br>
<br>
I really appreciate this. Amazing wall. I saw
drawings of the Desert Living Center on the
internet, but no photos. I’m sure I could find
photos if I looked. Both the wall and the Desert
Living Center are great projects. <br>
<br>
As far as you know, the bales have not rotted?
Assuming it has been a success (performance and
relative cost) I wonder why it hasn’t been
replicated elsewhere. Do you have a cross-section
drawing of the wall that you’re able to share?<br>
<br>
My inquiry came from a colleague in Australia who
asked about the highway wall, and is on the Global
Straw Building Network (about 120 straw bale
building experts from around the world). Do you
have interest in being a member of this group? (with
informed, interesting e-mail discussion that ebbs
and flows, that you can participate in or not)<br>
<br>
Thanks again.<br>
<br>
Martin</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Gsbn
<<a href="mailto:gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com</a>>
on behalf of Lars Keller <<a
href="mailto:larskeller@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">larskeller@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, March 21, 2019 at 5:41 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>GSBN <<a
href="mailto:GSBN@SustainableSources.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">GSBN@SustainableSources.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[GSBN] Reference projects for big scale
traffic noise barriers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Hi
all,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I
have been contacted by an architect who is researching
whether to use straw in a 900m long and 5meter tall
noice barrier next to a road.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Provided
there is a dry foundation and a healthy roof i think
great yes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The
architect would love to see, that it has already been
done somewhere else in the world.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I
think its been dony many places.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Can
anyone guide me to a good reference project ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Best,
Lars Keller</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Planet</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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href="mailto:jomorandin@gmail.com"
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<a href="mailto:larskeller@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">larskeller@gmail.com</a><br>
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Lars +45 2024 0505 (mobile/handy)<br>
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Benedikt Kaesberg
Brigittenstraße 1
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Tel. +49 171 998 7171
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