[GSBN] prefab strawbale

[Tim Owen-Kennedy]

Hi all,

Sorry for the delayed response. I completely support Chris M and his super
simple prefeb system for many reasons that I don't feel the need to say -
but if anyone is still sceptical feel free to send me a message off list and
I'll fill your inbox. Mostly I just want to say, and I love the fact that I
get to paraphrase Ianto Evans on this one:

beyond distraction from the greater effort, there is very little that comes
from challenging someone for chipping away at a different part of the rock
when the size and force of the rolling stone that is our dominant western
culture is so large. And we need as much effort as possible to change it's
course.

Just my mixed metaphor sense for now,

Tim "hoping his english translates, at least to the english speakers" O-K


On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Rene Dalmeijer <rene.dalmeijer at hetnet.nl>wrote:

> Chris, Tom, Caroline, and many other burning bal heads,
>
> I would also like to join in the fray and lay down a few straws.
>
> I fully agree with what Chris said in his lengthy reply to Flaming Tom's
> rant regarding pre-fab SB.
>
>  Well, as somebody who is committed to both owner-built SB
>> and pre-fab, I'd like to suggest that the two are not
>> mutually exclusive. In fact, they can exist in perfect
>> peace and harmony! My reasons for such belief follow...
>>
>
> I am sure that some of my reasons for using pre-fab are the same as
> Chris's.
> - The main reason is that by using pre-fab we are able to build a weather
> tight house in about 1 week. This means in our climate, the removal of the
> major risk element to SB construction, wet bales.
> - Besides this it saves vast sums of money compared to on-site building.
> Based on my experience at least 30%. The amount saved depends on the level
> of pre-fab used.
> - Large scale Pre-fab is definitely not something for 1 time owner
> builders, setting up the whole pre-fab proces for 1 project could actually
> lead to higher costs.
> - I am quite a fan of Chris's method because it makes pre-fab quite
> accessible maybe even for 1 time projects. I have not used it myself yet but
> would like to in the future.
> - I am sure that pre-fab SB opens the way to a much bigger market then the
> current On-site SB building vernacular.
> - Pre-fab SB does not preclude owner involvement but allows the owners to
> do the parts that they tend to enjoy the most plastering and finish.
> Although I also like to employ them during the rough build erection.
> (especially the boys enjoy working with the heavy metal boys toys) For most
> this also means the risks of self building becomes much more manageable not
> involving huge time overruns or even abandonment before completion.
>
> But I must add this nothing competes with the earthy charm of simplicity
> offered by a load bearing site build round wood SB house. Alas this charm is
> reserved for the happy few who are offered this choice by the circumstances
> of their location. To most this is not the case and we might have to settle
> for SB high rise in the inner city. Personally given the choice of pre-fab
> SB high rise in the city or no SB option at all I know what I would chose.
>
> Basking in the reclaimed swamp at the mouth of the Rhine on a pre-fab
> platform (pallet)
> Rene Dalmeijer
>
> On Sep 15, 2009, at 17:42, cmagwood at kos.net wrote:
>
>
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