[GSBN] Embodied energy comparisons: SB vs Stick-built

[Joyce Coppinger]

Count me as in favor of adding Andrew.

Joyce


on 2/16/09 4:00 PM, David Eisenberg at strawnet at aol.com wrote:

>  Good idea!
> 
> David
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graeme North <graeme at ecodesign.co.nz>
> To: (private, with public archives) Global Straw Building Network
> <GSBN at greenbuilder.com>
> Cc: Andrew Alcorn <jandrew.alcorn at gmail.com>
> Sent: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 2:53 pm
> Subject: Re: [GSBN] Embodied energy comparisons: SB vs Stick-built
> 
> Dear all
> 
> I suggest that Andrew Alcorn be added to this list - he has been involved in
> earth and strawbale building research and design for many years and is one of
> the few researchers I know of who is delving deeply into this embodied and
> related  energy stuff in buildings
> 
> In addition it will save me forwarding on loads of emails to him, and his
> replies to you
> 
> 
> cheers
> 
> 
>  
> Graeme
> Graeme North Architects
> 49 Matthew Road
> RD1
> Warkworth
> tel/fax +64 (0)9 4259305
>  
> graeme at ecodesign.co.nz
> www.ecodesign.co.nz <http://www.ecodesign.co.nz>
> 
>  
> 
> On 17/02/2009, at 8:39 AM, Derek Roff wrote:
> 
>> How about a more abstract one:
>> 
>> Is this the best use of this material?
>> Are we diverting/consuming a material from some other more important use?
>> 
>> This is sort of the flip side of recycling- removing things from the market
>> that have other uses.  The poster child for this kind of dilemma is crude
>> oil.  Oil pundits like to say it has a million different uses, from
>> pharmaceuticals to fertilizers to building materials.  Instead, we burn 99%
>> of it, getting the lowest possible use from an amazing material.
>> 
>> Right now, I look on ethanol this way.  To produce a marginal (perhaps
>> negative) energy source, we have impacted food supply and general wealth and
>> health in Mexico among other places.
>> 
>> I don't have an example in mind for this kind of misuse of a material as it
>> relates to the building industry.  Perhaps others can suggest one.
>> 
>> Derelict
>> 
>> 
>> --On Monday, February 16, 2009 11:01 AM -0800 John Swearingen
>> <jswearingen at skillful-means.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Ok, since we've decided that embodied energy is of less or equal
>>> significance as life-cycle energy use, I would suggest that any
>>> materials or forms of construction be evaluated on at least these
>>> areas:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   ? Does the material contribute structurally
>>>   ? Does the material contribute thermally (insulation)
>>>   ? Does the material provide thermal storage (mass)
>>>   ? Does the material provide fire safety
>>>   ? Does the material contribute to the local economy
>>>   ? What are the manufacturing environmental costs
>>>   ? What are the transportation and wastage environmental costs
>>>   ? Is the material a by-product, waste-product, or recycled
>>>   ? Is the material bio-degradable, recyclable or land-fill
>>>   ? Is the material toxic in manufacture, use or disposal
>>>   ? What is the expected life-span of the system (resistance to
>>> environmental damage)
>>> Feel free to add.
>>> 
>>> John
>>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Derek Roff
>> Language Learning Center
>> Ortega Hall 129, MSC03-2100
>> University of New Mexico
>> Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001
>> 505/277-7368, fax 505/277-3885
>> Internet: derek at unm.edu
>> 
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