[GSBN] Prefab hoe-down

Fri Feb 26 05:03:12 UTC 2016

Many years ago, when we were building a strawbale for the Coppolas, Ellie
Coppola gave us what has been a great "specification" for our bale/plaster
finish--"As fine a finish as you can make it while still being a
hand-finish." In other words, strive for excellence in craft.  We've had
many clients who love strawbale and also want crisp edges and flat walls,
but few of them have been anywhere close to finicky as is often found with
drywall houses.

We've also had a number of clients who want rounded and softer finishes,
and also rougher, natural finishes and textures. I'm at the moment in a
coffee shop, and notice a wide variety of textiles draped over my fellow
patron's bodies--some rough, some smooth, some tight, some loose. I presume
they picked out what they are wearing themselves, and are comfortable in
what they're wearing....

John "I'm Finnish" Souveringen

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 8:41 PM David Arkin, AIA <david at arkintilt.com>
wrote:

> "You can do anything with Straw Bales … except have skinny walls."
> ---the inimitable Matts Myhrman
>
> We've had a good number of clients come to us saying they absolutely love
> the idea of straw bale walls, but can we please have them be more flat and
> have squarer corners?  Of course, being the modern-leaning architects that
> we are, we oblige.  This has led to more folks finding us for this reason,
> and thus a portfolio of bale projects that largely (but not exclusively)
> feature more planar walls and sharper corners.
>
>
> Do an image search on Houzz, or Dwell, or (if you dare) Architectural
> Record Houses.  Rounded up to the nearest 1%, 100% of the images do not
> feature a curved anything (except maybe an Eames Chair, or a Nelson Bubble
> Lamp … btw, the house pictured above does have a curved roof).
>
> Derek makes some excellent points: that organic needn't be lumpy, and
> prefab needn't be machine square.
>
> Straw Building is a big tent, with room for anything except skinny walls
> (and who knows … that may be coming soon); Pre-Fab may be a good path to
> bringing straw bale into a new and bigger sector of the mainstream, and
> when we do there will be that many more people discovering their inner
> Mickey Mouse kitchen desires when they image search on 'straw bale walls'
> and get a taste of anything and everything that's possible.
>
>
> David Arkin
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Derek Stearns Roff <derek at unm.edu> wrote:
>
> I appreciate the organic aesthetic and the rounded corners mentioned by
> Bob Theis and Robert Gay.  I’m curious, though, about how you see the
> distribution curve of public/client interest, versus amount of
> organicness.  In New Mexico, where I live, a large percentage of the
> population appreciates the thick walls and rounded corners of traditional
> adobe buildings.  Even if they wouldn’t pick that style for their own
> house, they appreciate the look, and consider it attractive.  Many people
> that I talk to are thrilled that strawbale walls are even thicker than
> normal adobe walls.
>
> However, I see a very quick drop off in appreciation when “organic” moves
> into “funky”.  At a guess, 90% of the people who like the organic, round
> look of many adobes and some strawbale houses, would reject the Rachel
> Shiamh home (Wales) that Robert included in his message.  Elegant curves
> and gently undulating surfaces have a lot of fans; lumpy and irregular
> doesn’t.  The dividing line will vary with the individual, but around here,
> I think the bell curve is pretty steep, and “too organic” has limited
> appeal.  As for Mickey Mouse’s Kitchen, something fun for Disney World
> isn’t likely to be a style that many choose for their house.
>
> Pre-fab strawbale can have curves and organic character.  It would be hard
> to reach the hobbit and hippie end of the spectrum.  And while I might
> appreciate those modalities, I don’t think we are dropping off much of the
> mainstream public, when we accept the range of forms that can be done with
> pre-fab.
>
> Derek
>
> Derek Roff
> derek at unm.edu
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2016, at 3:19 PM, Bob Theis <bob at bobtheis.net> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> I am not at all surprised at the extent to which we agree. Seeing pictures
> of that first bale house of yours made it quite clear that you were okay
> with  walls that were not stiff  and straight!
>
> And I absolutely agree that making  low carbon buildings commonly
> available by reducing their cost is a much  higher priority than  avoiding
> machined edges.
>
> What I am hoping is that we don’t stop at the current approach  but  find
> a way to have it both ways:  Let the bale walls remain BALE walls - not
> wood boxes with bales in them -  AND  get them up and covered faster.
>
> This probably requires a different approach  to aggregating bales , like ….
> *glueing* them into a panel?
>
> The point being, there’s an asset to bale walls  - the character we find
> so appealing  - that we don’t want to lose.
>
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