[GSBN] Off topic question about water filtration

Christina cgoodvin at gmail.com
Sat Dec 13 05:51:15 UTC 2014 

Hi all,

During my PDC with Rob Avis (Verge Permaculture) we talked about home
filtration and he suggested the Aquasana Rhino (he uses this). I have
done some preliminary research and have talked with a company
representative, but can't comment on comparisons to other systems.
Just thought I'd pass it on...

Cheers,
Christina

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> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 18:13:05 +0000
> From: Tom Woolley <tom.woolley at btconnect.com>
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> Dear Chris
>
> suggest you write to Olan Herr in Ireland
> Ollan Herr <ollan.herr at herr.ie>
> http://www.reedbedsirl.com/Home
> he mainly works on reed-beds but is very knowledgeable about the issues you raise
>
> Tom
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>
> Tom Woolley
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> On 7 Dec 2014, at 16:30, Chris Magwood wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> I know this isn't really a straw bale question, but I thought all the excellently researched brains on this list might have some thoughts on the issue...
>>
>> We're looking for advice on a good, whole house water filtration setup specifically to deal with municipal water. So we want to be removing fluoride, chlorine, lead & other pipework metals, plus (if it's possible), the pharmaceuticals that are showing up in municipal water.
>>
>> I know about reverse osmosis, but am wondering if there are other paths that anybody has researched or experienced?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --
>> Chris Magwood
>> Director, Endeavour Centre
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> From: Graeme North <graeme at ecodesign.co.nz>
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> Subject: Re: [GSBN] Off topic question about water filtration
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> Chris
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> Some in-line carbon filters seem to be pretty good at getting rid of a whole lot of nasties including lead - worth looking into at least for drinking water. For 100% pure then you may need to look at distillation, and there I suspect that there may be some nifty solar jobs around now.
>
> Graeme
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> On 8/12/2014, at 5:30 AM, Chris Magwood <chris at endeavourcentre.org> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> I know this isn't really a straw bale question, but I thought all the excellently researched brains on this list might have some thoughts on the issue...
>>
>> We're looking for advice on a good, whole house water filtration setup specifically to deal with municipal water. So we want to be removing flouride, chlorine, lead & other pipework metals, plus (if it's possible), the pharmaceuticals that are showing up in municipal water.
>>
>> I know about reverse osmosis, but am wondering if there are other paths that anybody has researched or experienced?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> --
>> Chris Magwood
>> Director, Endeavour Centre
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> From: Art Ludwig/ Oasis <oasis at oasisdesign.net>
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> Subject: Re: [GSBN] Off topic question about water filtration
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> Chris,
>
> I'd suggest inexpensive, whole-house carbon for chlorine-free showers, etc., then expensive r/o for drinking only. Note that the preferred membrane filter for r/o is different for Cl-free water vs Cl-containing water.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~
>
> BTW, I like making a cascade of uses with the r/o drain water (4 gallons for every gallon of drinking water; often a few thousand gallons a year.
>
>  For example, we've used it to top off a700 gallon covered redwood cold plunge (=eco swimming pool, emergency water), the overflow from which went down a fountain that made a nice sound (no pump needed?the hotter it is the more you drink and the more it drips), then a small pool for birds and wildlife, which overflows to irrigate fruit trees. Use mosquito fish in the cold plunge and pool.
>
> The r/o drain water ("clearwater") can be easily moved through 1/4" tubing to a pool quite some distance away. Last one of these I did (in Spain) we ran the water 100' to a join spring, well, rooftop and road runoff in a 365 m3 stone cistern for swimming and irrigation. We used the clearwater line to feed a level indicator that showed the 4 meters variation in water depth between full and empty with 1mm accuracy--you could see one bucket of water change the level of a square pool 10x10 meters in extent.
>
> Art
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>
> On Dec 7, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Graeme North <graeme at ecodesign.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> Chris
>>
>> Some in-line carbon filters seem to be pretty good at getting rid of a whole lot of nasties including lead - worth looking into at least for drinking water. For 100% pure then you may need to look at distillation, and there I suspect that there may be some nifty solar jobs around now.
>>
>> Graeme
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/12/2014, at 5:30 AM, Chris Magwood <chris at endeavourcentre.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I know this isn't really a straw bale question, but I thought all the excellently researched brains on this list might have some thoughts on the issue...
>>>
>>> We're looking for advice on a good, whole house water filtration setup specifically to deal with municipal water. So we want to be removing flouride, chlorine, lead & other pipework metals, plus (if it's possible), the pharmaceuticals that are showing up in municipal water.
>>>
>>> I know about reverse osmosis, but am wondering if there are other paths that anybody has researched or experienced?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Magwood
>>> Director, Endeavour Centre
>>> www.endeavourcentre.org
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> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 12:25:27 +0200
> From: "Andy Horn" <andy at ecodesignarchitects.co.za>
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> Hi Chris
> I would steer well clear of reverse Osmosis ...unless it is a last resort,
> where you have high levels of salt in your water.
>
> RO filtration basically strips out all the minerals and is like drinking
> battery water so you thus have to re-mineralize it. It also takes a lot of
> energy to run an RO system and furthermore it wastes more water than
> filters.
>
> You want an in-line filtration system that simply runs off your water
> pressure and ideally has a self-cleaning backwash function. You may also
> want to differentiate between general household filtration and actual
> drinking water quality, so achieving higher quality for your drinking
> water.....Set-up in sequence look something like a Sediment filtration,
> ultra-filter, granular activated carbon, KDF and an ion exchange.
>
> There are quite a few options her in SA ...but essentially everything comes
> from abroad, so no point in sending you a link to anything of ours. Tom's
> link is hopefully going to be of help.
> Best
> Andy Horn
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> Subject: [GSBN] Off topic question about water filtration
>
> Hi all,
>
> I know this isn't really a straw bale question, but I thought all the
> excellently researched brains on this list might have some thoughts on the
> issue...
>
> We're looking for advice on a good, whole house water filtration setup
> specifically to deal with municipal water. So we want to be removing
> flouride, chlorine, lead & other pipework metals, plus (if it's possible),
> the pharmaceuticals that are showing up in municipal water.
>
> I know about reverse osmosis, but am wondering if there are other paths that
> anybody has researched or experienced?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
> --
> Chris Magwood
> Director, Endeavour Centre
> www.endeavourcentre.org
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> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 23:49:42 +1100
> From: Enga Lokey <enga at thelokeys.net>
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> Subject: [GSBN] data loggers
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> Hello All,
>
> Wanted to check in with any of you that have experience with data loggers in ongoing monitoring of temperature and humidity. Ideally, I will be imbedding dataloggers/sensors in the walls of a strawbale structure as it is built and then be able to monitor temperature and moisture movement within the wall from the plastering process through several years of use. If anyone is familiar with specific brands or types of equipment that either works particularly well or should be avoided, I would appreciate hearing about it. Economy will unfortunately be a factor as funding for these monitors seems to be getting more limited each day.
>
> Thanks for any and all input.
> Enga
>
>
> enga at thelokeys.net
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> Very happy with these guys & their products, prices & service:
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> Onset Corp.
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> Thanks,
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> Bruce King
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>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 4:49 AM, Enga Lokey <enga at thelokeys.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Wanted to check in with any of you that have experience with data loggers in ongoing monitoring of temperature and humidity. Ideally, I will be imbedding dataloggers/sensors in the walls of a strawbale structure as it is built and then be able to monitor temperature and moisture movement within the wall from the plastering process through several years of use. If anyone is familiar with specific brands or types of equipment that either works particularly well or should be avoided, I would appreciate hearing about it. Economy will unfortunately be a factor as funding for these monitors seems to be getting more limited each day.
>>
>> Thanks for any and all input.
>> Enga
>>
>>
>> enga at thelokeys.net
>>
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