[GSBN] a Cob list serve

[Graeme North]

Feile

I am interested in cob, and strawbale and mud brick and light earth and unstabilised rammed earth and earth plasters and lime plasters and natural timber .. and etc etc - and really, don't want to have a separate list for each technique. 
I guess that is a problem with being a natural building generalist - but if I had a list for each of my natural building interests then I would be inclined to shake my head and give up as its easier I reckon.
But then if the list gets too large in numbers it might be overwhelming too so I don't know the answer to that one either, but whatever it is - simplicity is a key consideration.
At the moment I reckon that the GSBN list is working really well thanks to those who keep it going


And now I know about the coblist I have joined it

cheers

Graeme





 
On 13/03/2014, at 2:51 PM, Sarah Machtey <mudhome at netzero.net> wrote:

> I'd like to second everything Bill has said about the coblist. Shannon has always kept a pretty tight rein on it - keeping it on topic - so, as long as it remains low-traffic, I don't feel the need for a separate invitation-only list. What it could use, apparently, is a bit of inviting/publicizing to natural building professionals. Thanks for pointing that out, Misha and Feile. I had always just assumed that anyone interested in a cob list would do an internet search, find it, and subscribe. 
> 
> Sarah Machtey
> SageEarth.com 
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> 
> From: Bill Christensen <lists at sustainablesources.com>
> To: Feile Butler <feile at mudandwood.com>, Global Straw Building Network <GSBN at sustainablesources.com>
> Subject: Re: [GSBN] a Cob list serve
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:11:19 -0500
> 
> Coblist is currently open to all.
> 
> I think it's a small enough focus that there hasn't really been a need to do the invitation only thing.
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> On 3/12/14 4:23 AM, Feile Butler wrote:
> 
> Maybe we could reactivate this list? And I agree that it should not be cob only, but other forms of earth construction too.
> 
> Graeme, I don't agree that it works when we all operate under GSBN using targeted email subject titles.
> 
> A few times I have put questions out there that are more to do with earth than straw and I got either a tiny response (often off-list) or no response at all. What I love about GSBN is that the information is available to everyone on the list. But if people are not answering earth-related questions on-list or not answering the questions at all, then it isn't working to expand our knowledge and experience of earth-related materials.
> 
> I almost got the feeling that it wasn't the done thing to bring up too many earth-related topics on a straw network. And also, the reality is that many excellent earth building specialists are not represented on the straw bale list. And there may well be plenty of straw balers who have no interest in earth-related topics and may not want their list highjacked (and I don't want to feel that I am highjacking a list).
> 
> This came up at the Earth Building UK's directors' meeting last week too. The issue of invitation is important. Already I know of rammed earth specialists who do not want to share a list with rammed-earth-stabilised-with-cement specialists, because they say (and I actually agree) that it is no longer earth, but a form of concrete. I'm not sure how we would deal with subtleties like that.
> 
> Do you have to be nominated to get on the coblist?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Feile www.mudandwood.com
> 
> ----- Original Message -----From: Bill Christensen To: Global Straw Building Network Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:12 AM Subject: Re: [GSBN] a Cob list serve
> 
> There's already a Coblist out there... been around since 1996, according to the archives. I support making use of the existing resources instead of reinventing wheels, too. No sense in diluting a small community.
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> Coblist mailing list Coblist at deatech.com http://www.deatech.com/mailman/listinfo/coblist
> 
> It's not a high traffic list by any means, but there are sometimes interesting discussions there. It peaked around 2003 with 2146 messages, but now is down to less than a hundred a year. There's some good info in those archives, too, as I recall.
> 
> Regarding the mailman-owner at sustainablesources.com and other such lists, I don't monitor those addresses. But you can always find me at this one and many other @greenbuilder.com addresses.
> 
> On 3/11/14 6:50 PM, Misha Rauchwerger wrote:
> 
> At the last board meeting of the Cob Research Institute we discussed the possibility of a dedicated cob list serve, similar to the GSBN, in that it would be primarily for professionals and specific to technical aspects of cob, engineering, permitting, testing, connection and other architectural details, etc. We didn't want to re-invent the wheel, or start yet another list unless there was interest. So I'm starting with you to explore the possibility and interest level.
> 
> 1. It's possible to not limit it to cob, but could include earthen buildings in general 2. It should be by invitation only, but if it begins through GSBN, then members already in GSBN would be already on the list if they so chose 3. We would need a moderator 4. It could be it's own list, on the GSBN list with specific headers, or some other permutation that might be able to take advantage of the structure already set up by GSBN, but only received by members that wish to participate (if possible).
> 
> We are excited to open up the dialogue about this and see where it goes.
> 
> Misha Rauchwerger Built In Bliss
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