[GSBN] GSBN's future structure

Sat Mar 1 06:32:14 UTC 2014

I agree with Derek.... I don't see fixing what ain't broken.

The original purpose of the GSBN is still being served, which was to keep
the level of discussion at the cutting edge, (not repeating the basics), to
share important breakthroughs or get feedback on problems, and to be an
international networking tool among the most committed individuals and,
through them, regional organizations.  To boldly go where no bale has gone
before... you get the picture.  ;-)

BTW, I recently got the latest issue of TLS in the mail, and it is
wonderful to hold in my hands this beautiful full-color magazine with a
stunning Korean natural home on the cover, and a great article on SB &
Building Science by Chris Magwood inside (and many more).

Please, everyone, support Jeff Ruppert and the evolution of The Last Straw
Journal, and order up a copy if you haven't already.  And those of you
outside the USA can download it via pdf from http://thelaststraw.org

And to all of you enjoying the Natural Building Gathering in Ontario this
weekend....Cheers!

Sincerely,
Catherine Wanek
Co-director
Builders Without Borders
www.builderswithoutborders.org

*Ecological builders working together for a sustainable future.*

On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Derek Stearns Roff <derek at unm.edu> wrote:

>  I've changed the subject line, to focus on the specific question of
> GSBNs future structure.  I'm finding it challenging to follow this topic
> mixed in with other questions.
>
>  I favor continuing GSBN as it is.  I think it serves a valuable and
> unique niche. Our members have differing needs, and GSBN serves some of
> those needs well.  In my view, we have created an important community on
> GSBN, that I want to maintain.  The fact that the list is quiet for weeks
> at a time is a virtue.  It allows important mutual support and high-level
> discussion on topics when needed, and isn't a burden during the rest of the
> time.
>
>  Facebook serves other needs and other forms of use.  The Strawbale list
> on Facebook has existed for I don't know how long- more than a year.  It
> has more than 1,100 members.  Some members of GSBN are on the Facebook SB
> list, and everyone could be, if they wanted to be.  But closing GSBN would
> not enhance the Facebook group, it would just eliminate the unique
> community that we have here.  You can't have this kind of community and
> interaction on a list with Facebook's level of traffic, member quantity,
> and mix of topics and postings.  Facebook is great for reaching a lot of
> people in a fairly superficial way.  That is important, but it isn't the
> only thing that is important.  GSBN is important too.
>
>  Derek
>
>
>  On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Bill Christensen wrote:
>
>  On 2/27/14 8:10 PM, Frank Tettemer wrote:
>
> Tony, that was a wake up for me.  I hadn't even considered Liz might not
> be on the list. And so I began to consider who else might not be on the
> list.
>
>
>  In an effort to leave no stones unturned, I would like to nominate the
> following:
>
>
>  Dawn Marie Smith
>
> Anna Wolfson
>
> Michael Henry
>
> Emily Rydell Niehaus
>
>
>  I'd also like to apologize to any of the people, nominated above, who
> are reading this right now,
>
> because, they are already on this list!
>
> I just didn't know.
>
>
>  Dawn and Emily are already here.
>
> Anna, Michael, and Liz Johndrow are not yet (or they're unidentified
> non-contributors at the moment).
>
> I'll need their email addresses or better still they can sign up by
> following the link at the bottom of http://sustainablesources.com/GSBN/,
> and then let me now and I can make them contributing members.
>
> Regarding the idea of combining lists:   I definitely support putting the
> bioenergy and SBRUs lists together.  It seems they've been redundant since
> shortly after the REPP list cratered for a while, SBRUs was created, and
> then REPP was reconstituted.
>
> The original reason for GSBN's existence was that those lists were
> bale-hammered on a regular basis by well meaning newbies.  Us old codgers
> (experience-wise, not necessarily chronologically) got tired of repeating
> the same answers again and again, and a bunch of the really knowledgeable
> old codgers got too busy working on codes and other big-picture stuff to
> wade into the fray often, if at all. GSBN became the place for 'higher
> level' discussions regarding the strawbale movement, techniques, etc.  And
> it has proven to work very well for that over the many years (since 1998 at
> least).
>
> If y'all are of a mind to open GSBN to everyone (and I know some of you
> have been for a fair while), or to combine it with some new SB überlist I'm
> cool with that too.  Opening to all just involves a couple clicks of my
> all-powerful mouse.  Combining lists can be a little more difficult
> (archive transfers and all that) but is not impossible.
>
> But I'd want to hear a decisive decision one way or the other from the
> majority of you.
>
>
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