[GSBN] Post Fire Cleanup

[John Straube]

I have seen both AFM and Kilz with former said to be preferred because of lower smell. This is what I meant by painting the gyp board before adding a new layer. 
The walls are not painted so will require a different approach I think. Once you paint bond of the new layers is likely less than required. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Christensen <billc at greenbuilder.com>
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 16:15:40 
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Reply-To: "(private, with public archives) Global Straw Building Network" <GSBN at greenbuilder.com>
Subject: Re: [GSBN] Post Fire Cleanup

Sorry, the AFM I was referring to is

<http://www.afmsafecoat.com/>

Their first page expains some of the differences between their 
products and "low voc" products like Kilz. Basically, a lot of so 
called "low voc" products have lots of ingredients which are 
questionable - but exempt from the official regulations.  AFM does a 
good job of going farther than your typical paint manufacturer in 
making their stuff safe to use and safe to live with.  They're pretty 
well known among those with chemical sensitivities, and those folks 
are definitely the canaries in the coal mines.

I've used a number of their products before and they've always 
behaved well - though they are admittedly more expensive than the 
typical stuff.

At 1:24 PM -0600 11/4/10, Derek Roff wrote:
>Kilz is the name on a whole line of different products.  I hadn't 
>heard it referred to as "nasty stuff" before.  I'd be interested in 
>learning more.  The MSDS for this Kilz product looks similar to 
>other oil-based paints.
>
><http://www.conncoll.edu/offices/envhealth/MSDS/buildingtrades/kilz.htm>
>
>I found that AFM is the American Federation of Musicians.  A group 
>noted for their outgassing, objectionable to some.  Bill, can you 
>give us more of a hint on the AFM that you were referring to?
>
>Thanks,
>Derek
>
>
>--On Thursday, November 4, 2010 2:06 PM -0500 Bill Christensen 
><billc at greenbuilder.com> wrote:
>
>>At 10:44 AM -0600 11/4/10, Habib John Gonzalez wrote:
>>>
>>>The final step was to repaint all the drywall with a product call
>>>Kilz. The project designer described it as a vapour barrier paint.
>>
>>Another possibility might be one of the sealers made by AFM.  I know
>>chemically sensitive folks who use it to seal in outgassing from
>>conventional building materials, and I suspect it could also be used
>>for fire odor.  Kilz is pretty nasty stuff itself - even the water
>>based version.
>

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