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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Thanks everyone for the feedback and interesting discussion !  David I caught your presentation at the Colorado Natural Building Conference .. good stuff !  In a similar vein I'm wondering if anyone out there has done
 a standard (but not popular) 19 3/16" 2x6 stud frame house and tried to stuff 18" bales on end between the studs?  The stud spacing allows for 8' sheet goods on the outside and leaves 17 11/16" (sorry to the rest of world about these silly fractions) space
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Anyone ?  FYI the climate here does not necessarily warrant the additional blown cellulose.  We already (usually) net zero our "standard" 1000 sq/ft bale homes with 3kw of PV and a Fujitsu mini-split.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 14, 2018 10:42 AM<br>
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<div class="">We completed a recent project using a ‘Hybrid Wall System’, employing typical 2x6 studs at 24” on center with plywood sheathing (note - plywood, not OSB - but in a non-seismic zone wood fiberboard or similar may suffice), and then installed the
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<div class="">Also attached is a picture of the wall under construction.  We used 3-string rye bales and held them tight to the plywood with 4” wide strips of 1/2” plywood, and 12” Timber-Hex screws into the studs (we'll use 14” screws next time - easier to
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Here's a detail from our last straw-cell project. Hope it's helpful to you. You can contact me off list if you want to discuss it.</div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">I'm consulting with a non-profit (<a href="http://www.yinnovations.org/" class="x_OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk322821" previewremoved="true">http://www.yinnovations.org/</a>) to  build an affordable straw home
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