<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Sorry for weighing in so late on this topic. <br><br>I'm recalling that the ADRA straw-bale housing initiative in Heilongjiang, China, which was awarded the World Habitat Award in 2005, that homeowners were saving approximately 2/3 of their heating costs compared with traditional brick buildings.   Not only that, but each small home saved 150 tons of CO2 from going into the atmosphere, because they sequestered CO2 in the bales and reduced the burning of coal to stay warm. And the health of the inhabitants improved, as they reduced the indoor air pollution from breathing coal smoke.  <br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><font size="1"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif">Sincerely,</span><br style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif">Catherine Wanek</span><br style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif">Co-director</span><br style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif">Builders Without Borders<br></span><a style="font-family:georgia,serif" href="http://www.builderswithoutborders.org/" target="_blank">www.builderswithoutborders.org</a><br><br style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"></span><font style="color:rgb(0,102,0)"><i style="font-family:georgia,serif">Ecological builders working together for a sustainable future.</i></font><br style="font-family:georgia,serif"></font><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:35 AM, Rikki Nitzkin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rikkinitzkin@gmail.com" target="_blank">rikkinitzkin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Thanks. That is exactly the problem. She writes for the section of “business” in the paper and knows NOTHing about building… I sent some explanations which she asked me later to “simplify”.<div><br></div><div><span class=""><blockquote type="cite"><div class="m_-9062356287104879406WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I suggest that you give her/him a range, like “between 20% and 50%.” You should tell the reporter that there are a lot of variables that can affect how big that percentage</span></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span>That is exactly what I did. </div><div><br></div><div>taker<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><span class=""><div>El 15/5/2017, a las 18:52, Nehemiah Stone <<a href="mailto:nehemiah@stoneenergyassc.com" target="_blank">nehemiah@stoneenergyassc.com</a>> escribió:</div><br class="m_-9062356287104879406Apple-interchange-newline"></span><div><div class="m_-9062356287104879406WordSection1" style="font-family:Papyrus;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">It might be important to remember that this is a<span class="m_-9062356287104879406Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>newspaper</b><span class="m_-9062356287104879406Apple-converted-space"> </span>reporter, and remember who her/his audience is. The reporter is likely looking for a sweeping,<span class="m_-9062356287104879406Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>usually<span class="m_-9062356287104879406Apple-converted-space"> </span></i>and<span class="m_-9062356287104879406Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>generall<wbr>y</i><span class="m_-9062356287104879406Apple-converted-space"> </span>accurate, estimate. While the nuances of “compared to what?”, and “in what climate?”, are important for builders, energy geeks, and clients who are considering their immediate home-building options, for a newspaper article, those details are in the weeds.<span class="m_-9062356287104879406Apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></p></span><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I suggest that you give her/him a range, like “between 20% and 50%.” You should tell the reporter that there are a lot of variables that can affect how big that percentage is, but unless this reporter<span class="m_-9062356287104879406Apple-converted-space"> </span><u>also</u>writes for a more technical journal, s/he is not likely to want to get into that level of detail.<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><i><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(118,146,60)">Best,<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><i><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Mistral;color:rgb(118,146,60)">Nehemiah Stone</span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Mistral;color:rgb(118,146,60)"><u></u><u></u></span></i></b></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(118,146,60)">Stone Energy Associates<u></u><u></u></span></b></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="tel:(916)%20663-1225" value="+19166631225" target="_blank">(916) 663-1225</a> (office)<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><a href="http://www.stoneenergyassc.com/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">www.StoneEnergyAssc.com</a><span class="m_-9062356287104879406Apple-converted-space"> </span>(not yet live)</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(23,54,93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',serif"><span lang="DE-AT"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span lang="DE-AT">Can anyone give me a ball-park figure? o a link to somewhere with reliable data?<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span lang="DE-AT"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span lang="DE-AT">I usually compare the centimeters of insulation in a conventional house, to that of SB. But I don’t have the data on what the difference is in real savings…<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span lang="DE-AT"> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span lang="DE-AT">thanks, Rikki<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span lang="DE-AT"> </span></div></div></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Papyrus" lang="DE-AT">Rikki Nitzkin<br>Strawbale Building and Clay Plaster:<br>education, consulting, and building<br><a href="http://www.tallerconco.org/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">www.tallerconco.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Papyrus" lang="DE-AT"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/TallerConCo" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/<wbr>TallerConCo</a><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Papyrus" lang="DE-AT"><br><a href="mailto:tallerconco@gmail.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">tallerconco@gmail.com</a><br><a href="tel:+34%20657%2033%2051%2062" value="+34657335162" target="_blank">(+ 34) 657 335 162</a><u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Papyrus" lang="DE-AT"><br><span id="m_-9062356287104879406cid:image001.png@01D2CD60.F0469E00"><image001.png></span><span class=""><br>Coordinator & Professional Member of:<br></span><span id="m_-9062356287104879406cid:image002.png@01D2CD60.F0469E00"><image002.png></span></span><span lang="DE-AT"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span lang="DE-AT"> </span></div></div><span class=""><span style="font-family:Papyrus;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">______________________________<wbr>_________________</span><br style="font-family:Papyrus;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-family:Papyrus;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">Gsbn mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Papyrus;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-family:Papyrus;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important"><a href="mailto:Gsbn@sustainablesources.com" target="_blank">Gsbn@sustainablesources.com</a></span><br style="font-family:Papyrus;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-family:Papyrus;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important"><a href="http://sustainablesources.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/gsbn" target="_bla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