<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks. That is exactly the problem. She writes for the section of “business” in the paper and knows NOTHing about building… I sent some explanations which she asked me later to “simplify”.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I suggest that you give her/him a range, like “between 20% and 50%.” You should tell the reporter that there are a lot of variables that can affect how big that percentage</span></p></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>That is exactly what I did. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">taker<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">El 15/5/2017, a las 18:52, Nehemiah Stone <<a href="mailto:nehemiah@stoneenergyassc.com" class="">nehemiah@stoneenergyassc.com</a>> escribió:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">It might be important to remember that this is a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">newspaper</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>reporter, and remember who her/his audience is. The reporter is likely looking for a sweeping,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">usually<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i>and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">generally</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>accurate, estimate. While the nuances of “compared to what?”, and “in what climate?”, are important for builders, energy geeks, and clients who are considering their immediate home-building options, for a newspaper article, those details are in the weeds.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I suggest that you give her/him a range, like “between 20% and 50%.” You should tell the reporter that there are a lot of variables that can affect how big that percentage is, but unless this reporter<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">also</u>writes for a more technical journal, s/he is not likely to want to get into that level of detail.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(118, 146, 60);" class="">Best,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Mistral; color: rgb(118, 146, 60);" class="">Nehemiah Stone</span></i></b><b class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Mistral; color: rgb(118, 146, 60);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(118, 146, 60);" class="">Stone Energy Associates<o:p class=""></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">(916) 663-1225 (office)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><a href="http://www.stoneenergyassc.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.StoneEnergyAssc.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(not yet live)</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(23, 54, 93);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">“The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world that it leaves to its children</span></i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">.” Dietrich Bonhoeffer<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gsbn [<a href="mailto:gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com" class="">mailto:gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:asbn@baubiologie.at" class="">asbn@baubiologie.at</a><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, May 12, 2017 8:38 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'Global Straw Building Network' <gsbn@sustainablesources.com><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [GSBN] energy efficiency.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Dear Rikki<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The question is energy saving compared to what?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We can build straw bale houses in low energy standard (according to the minimum energy standards)<br class="">or even as passive house. So the energy saving in this case compared to a conventionally insulated house is zero.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">If you build with big bales, this may result (theoretically, without including windows) in half the energy consumption of a passive house.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Important is the saving of preliminary energy compared to conventional insulations and the CO2-storage.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">According to Werner Schmidt: „Straw Bale Houses need only 10-15% of the preliminary energy of a conventinal house”.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Compared to a concrete house a straw bale house needs 50 times less energy in production (source: GrAT, TU Vienna)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Liebe Grüße / kind regards<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: none none solid; border-bottom-color: windowtext; border-bottom-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 12pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; border: none; padding: 0in;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Herbert Gruber<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; border: none; padding: 0in;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">asbn – austrian straw bale network<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; border: none; padding: 0in;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">ph: 0043 2958 83640<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; border: none; padding: 0in;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">mobile: 0043 650 22 16 812<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; border: none; padding: 0in;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:asbn@baubiologie.at" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">asbn@baubiologie.at</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; border: none; padding: 0in;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.baubiologie.at/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.baubiologie.at</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; border: none; padding: 0in;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="http://www.strawbuilding.eu/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class="">www.strawbuilding.eu</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(ESBA – European Straw Building Association)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; border: none; padding: 0in;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gsbn [<a href="mailto:gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Im Auftrag von<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Rikki Nitzkin<br class=""><b class="">Gesendet:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Freitag, 12. Mai 2017 13:06<br class=""><b class="">An:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Global Straw Building Network<br class=""><b class="">Betreff:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[GSBN] energy efficiency.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" class="">Hi, <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" class="">A reporter for a National newspaper here in Spain wants to write an article on SB. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" class=""> </span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" class="">She asks me: what is the % of energy savings in a SB house?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" class=""> </span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" class="">Can anyone give me a ball-park figure? o a link to somewhere with reliable data?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" class=""> </span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" class="">I usually compare the centimeters of insulation in a conventional house, to that of SB. But I don’t have the data on what the difference is in real savings…<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" class=""> </span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" class="">thanks, Rikki<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" class=""> </span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Papyrus;" class="">Rikki Nitzkin<br class="">Strawbale Building and Clay Plaster:<br class="">education, consulting, and building<br class=""><a href="http://www.tallerconco.org/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.tallerconco.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Papyrus;" class=""><a href="https://www.facebook.com/TallerConCo" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.facebook.com/TallerConCo</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Papyrus;" class=""><br class=""><a href="mailto:tallerconco@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">tallerconco@gmail.com</a><br class="">(+ 34) 657 335 162<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Papyrus;" class=""><br class=""><span id="cid:image001.png@01D2CD60.F0469E00"><image001.png></span><br class="">Coordinator & Professional Member of:<br class=""><span id="cid:image002.png@01D2CD60.F0469E00"><image002.png></span></span><span lang="DE-AT" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span lang="DE-AT" class=""> </span></div></div><span style="font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Gsbn mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="mailto:Gsbn@sustainablesources.com" class="">Gsbn@sustainablesources.com</a></span><br style="font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><a href="http://sustainablesources.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/gsbn" class="">http://sustainablesources.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/gsbn</a></span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>