<div dir="ltr">Claytec reed mats and boards are widely distributed in Europe, so they might be making their way to Canada. We've used reed intended for fencing, and purchased some from an importer/distributer directly.  We've had good results with CINTOFLEX, though I have some doubts about adhesion of earth plasters to the mesh, if that's an issue.<div><br></div><div>John</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:21 AM Chris Magwood <<a href="mailto:chris@endeavourcentre.org">chris@endeavourcentre.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Thanks all!</p>
    <p>Unfortunately, there aren't any reliable Canadian sources for
      reed mats that we've been able to find after years of looking. And
      to import them in small quantities is prohibitively expensive.
      They would definitely be something we'd use if we could get them.</p>
    <p>Numerous people suggested jute in different forms. We've had bad
      experiences with jute, finding that unless it's well-soaked in
      slip and has solid backing behind it then it creates soft spots in
      the wall. By the time we prep adequately to make the jute work, we
      can do the same with straw/clay or hemp fiber/clay in less time
      and for less cost. Perhaps if there are suggestions for quicker
      and more reliable use of jute, we could try again.</p>
    <p>We have tracked down a few synthetic products, including
      Permalath and Ultra-Lath. Both are plastic and commercially
      available, but I'm not sure how I feel about relying on
      petrochemicals.</p>
    <p>Thanks,</p>
    <p>Chris<br>
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    <div>On 2016-08-12 4:08 AM, Caroline Meyer
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#351c75">Hi
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#351c75">We use
          the reed mats on all wooden surfaces that are plastered, and
          for bridging we solely use jute-net, a mesh with 0,5 cm masks
          apart. (Perhaps you call it burlap?). It is surprisingly
          strong. </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#351c75">We also
          used it in some masonry stoves. One of them were rebuild
          because a new owner wanted a different design. It was only
          right up to where the plaster hits the metalframe of the
          "door" where you put in the firewood, the last 2 cm's that it
          was soft, otherwise it did it's job were weel.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#351c75">Cheers</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#351c75">Caroline</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-12 5:17 GMT+02:00 Ian Redfern <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ian@adobesouth.co.nz" target="_blank">ian@adobesouth.co.nz</a>></span>:<br>
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            Good afternoon Chris<br>
            <br>
            We are strong proponents of CINTOFLEX D  the expanded
            polyester mesh we<br>
            ³discovered" at your 2006 ISBC  and for convenience and
            surity to our<br>
            contractor and owner-builders we wrap the walls (which arwe
            less than 3000<br>
            high  in cintoflex - it is a small cost in the global view
            of building<br>
            ALSO<br>
            Cintofelx provides additional tangentail load resistance
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            earthquake) tot eh lime plaster<br>
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            Regards<br>
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                >Hi all,<br>
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                >For the first time in a long time, I'm in the market
                for some mesh for<br>
                >our jumbo straw bale project this summer. The
                sources we've used in the<br>
                >past have all dried up and our inventory is empty.<br>
                ><br>
                >So I thought it might be a good time to check in and
                see what others<br>
                >have been using. We're not looking to cover the
                entire wall, but we have<br>
                >some significant amounts of framing that need
                bridging, and ideally we'd<br>
                >prefer not to use metal mesh. I'd love to know what
                any of you are<br>
                >currently using and where you're sourcing it and
                perhaps refresh our<br>
                >practice a bit!<br>
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                >Thanks!<br>
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                >Chris<br>
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