<div dir="ltr">Claytec reed mats and boards are widely distributed in Europe, so they might be making their way to Canada. We've used reed intended for fencing, and purchased some from an importer/distributer directly. We've had good results with CINTOFLEX, though I have some doubts about adhesion of earth plasters to the mesh, if that's an issue.<div><br></div><div>John</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:21 AM Chris Magwood <<a href="mailto:chris@endeavourcentre.org">chris@endeavourcentre.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Thanks all!</p>
<p>Unfortunately, there aren't any reliable Canadian sources for
reed mats that we've been able to find after years of looking. And
to import them in small quantities is prohibitively expensive.
They would definitely be something we'd use if we could get them.</p>
<p>Numerous people suggested jute in different forms. We've had bad
experiences with jute, finding that unless it's well-soaked in
slip and has solid backing behind it then it creates soft spots in
the wall. By the time we prep adequately to make the jute work, we
can do the same with straw/clay or hemp fiber/clay in less time
and for less cost. Perhaps if there are suggestions for quicker
and more reliable use of jute, we could try again.</p>
<p>We have tracked down a few synthetic products, including
Permalath and Ultra-Lath. Both are plastic and commercially
available, but I'm not sure how I feel about relying on
petrochemicals.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Chris<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#351c75">Hi
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#351c75">We use
the reed mats on all wooden surfaces that are plastered, and
for bridging we solely use jute-net, a mesh with 0,5 cm masks
apart. (Perhaps you call it burlap?). It is surprisingly
strong. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#351c75">We also
used it in some masonry stoves. One of them were rebuild
because a new owner wanted a different design. It was only
right up to where the plaster hits the metalframe of the
"door" where you put in the firewood, the last 2 cm's that it
was soft, otherwise it did it's job were weel.</div>
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Good afternoon Chris<br>
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We are strong proponents of CINTOFLEX D the expanded
polyester mesh we<br>
³discovered" at your 2006 ISBC and for convenience and
surity to our<br>
contractor and owner-builders we wrap the walls (which arwe
less than 3000<br>
high in cintoflex - it is a small cost in the global view
of building<br>
ALSO<br>
Cintofelx provides additional tangentail load resistance
(wind and<br>
earthquake) tot eh lime plaster<br>
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Regards<br>
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>For the first time in a long time, I'm in the market
for some mesh for<br>
>our jumbo straw bale project this summer. The
sources we've used in the<br>
>past have all dried up and our inventory is empty.<br>
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>So I thought it might be a good time to check in and
see what others<br>
>have been using. We're not looking to cover the
entire wall, but we have<br>
>some significant amounts of framing that need
bridging, and ideally we'd<br>
>prefer not to use metal mesh. I'd love to know what
any of you are<br>
>currently using and where you're sourcing it and
perhaps refresh our<br>
>practice a bit!<br>
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>Thanks!<br>
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>Chris<br>
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