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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial">Thanks Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial">I’m adding an extra layer of insulation to keep up with current standards like PassivHaus (I don’t build PassivHaus, but clients like to hear that you’re using similar levels of insulation….)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial">Unless anyone else wants to chip in, I’ll reference Jacob as the originator.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial">Jacob, If I continue using a version of this method would you like to be credited in the documentation for planning approval etc?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Gsbn <gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com> on behalf of Bruce EBNet <bruce@ecobuildnetwork.org><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Global Straw Building Network <gsbn@sustainablesources.com><br>
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<b>To: </b>Global Straw GSBN <gsbn@sustainablesources.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [GSBN] Straw on edge with stick (stud) frame<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ll chime in here just to say that I first heard of the system from Jacob, so as far as I know he deserves credit. (Thanks, Jacob!). You can add other insulation fairly easily, but generally don’t need to, other than to plug the thermal
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial">My interest was mainly to do with combining the structural simplicity of a stick frame with the potential for significant extra insulation, as in the StrawCell example.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial">In the UK I have been using a 4 by 2 frame with wool as the insulation between the studs. This combines with the straw to reduce the U value from a nominal 0.16 W/m2K
for a rendered straw wall down to 0.11 W/m2K for the hybrid wall.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri">Gsbn <<a href="mailto:gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com"><span style="color:purple">gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com</span></a>>
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<b>Reply-To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Global Straw Building Network <<a href="mailto:gsbn@sustainablesources.com"><span style="color:purple">gsbn@sustainablesources.com</span></a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, 5 July 2016 at 14:48<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Global Straw Building Network <<a href="mailto:gsbn@sustainablesources.com"><span style="color:purple">gsbn@sustainablesources.com</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [GSBN] Straw on edge with stick (stud) frame</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">We’ve been working with a similar system of bales "on end" between 2x studs at 2’ o.c., with ply/fiber board on the exterior, and have a large addition to an adobe house planned to
use it soon, working with Bruce King as engineer. I’d be happy to chat as well and send details.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:#007D26">d s a</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt"> <span style="color:#515151">architects</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial">The post that I saw had a photo of a demonstration wall section and a couple of SketchUp drawings – Was that you?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri">Gsbn <<a href="mailto:gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com"><span style="color:purple">gsbn-bounces@sustainablesources.com</span></a>>
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<b>Reply-To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Global Straw Building Network <<a href="mailto:gsbn@sustainablesources.com"><span style="color:purple">gsbn@sustainablesources.com</span></a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, 5 July 2016 at 13:39<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Global Straw Building Network <<a href="mailto:gsbn@sustainablesources.com"><span style="color:purple">gsbn@sustainablesources.com</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [GSBN] Straw on edge with stick (stud) frame</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">We've been doing this technique for a few years now, in a few different ways. We coined a term "StrawCell" to describe the hybrid system, a web search for that term should turn up a few blog posts and videos. I'm
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