<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>Many thanks to all of you who responded!<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But, um, I wasn’t so much looking for information as hoping to prod y’all into contributing to the BuildWell source, and even get in the habit of using it. Many have now sent me papers or links with cheerful permission to put them in the library, but it just can’t work that way. I’m as swamped all the time as you, and further won’t be around forever. The only way for us to collect and maintain an accessible resource is to all use it, and especially contribute what we can.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So c’mon, troopers. Think of the coolest paper or web link or YouTube video you know, and put it in the Source so everyone else can dig it. You’ll feel so good, and I might even stop hassling you about it!</div><div class=""><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 11, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Dodson Harper <<a href="mailto:dodson@reginc.com" class="">dodson@reginc.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">All<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here are the three reports we have on file in our office about bale thermal performance. Unfortunately not the ORNL test. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bruce-As far as I am concerned these could be uploaded into the Source.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,<br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 11, 2016, at 1:33 AM, David Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:strawnet@gmail.com" class="">strawnet@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hi Bruce and all,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>Regarding that old ORNL thermal testing, I would guess that Nehemiah Stone would be the most likely person to have the actual test results. I tried to get them from Jeff Christian and others at ORNL a couple of years after the testing was done. I was also trying to get them to complete the work they had said they were going to do, which was analyze the results from the testing following achieving a steady state thermal flux. At that point they varied the external temperature to model weather patterns in several US cities to get an effective calculated R-value that would take into account the insulation and mass properties of the wall. They did that for other wall systems they tested, but never performed the calculations for the strawbale wall assembly even though they did the actual thermal testing. I was never able to get either the original test results or more information than the scant amount in various paper summarizing the whole wall thermal testing facility and their rotatable guarded hot box test apparatus. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The paper that Nehemiah wrote, that is on the EBNet website describes the testing but isn't the ORNL report. Hopefully Nehemiah will chime in on this.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David Eisenberg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Bruce King <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:bruce@ecobuildnetwork.org" target="_blank" class="">bruce@ecobuildnetwork.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">G’Day, GSBN —</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John Glassford wrote to me asking for some technical reports, in particular the thermal study done at Oak Ridge National Laboratories about 15 years ago. I can’t find an electronic copy on my hard drive, but hope that one of you do and will load it up on the BuildWell Source here: <a href="http://buildwelllibrary.org/building-materials/fibers/straw/strawbale" target="_blank" class="">http://buildwelllibrary.org/building-materials/fibers/straw/strawbale</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We’ve all been in John’s position, and will again: when the technical stuff you mostly don’t care about or need you suddenly do, and in those moments we all need an easy, accessible place to find it. That’s why we have the <a href="http://buildwelllibrary.org/" target="_blank" class="">Source</a> But it is a user based, user-reviewed resource; we count on you to take a moment and upload whatever useful documents you may have so that everybody forevermore all have benefit of them.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please do take a moment to share whatever geeky jewells you may have — on straw, straw-clay, earthen building, bamboo, or any other part of natural building. Someone someday will be very grateful that you did, but you can enjoy the warm satisfaction of your own selfless generosity right away!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">cheers,</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 7, 2016, at 7:23 PM, John Glassford <<a href="mailto:jacksflat@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jacksflat@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">G ' day Bruce</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Trust that you have fully recovered from your visit to the Land of the Long White Cloud.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I am copying this to one of our valued clients John Beurle who is building an energy rated SITUPS home in Victoria.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">John needs some of the latest data on the R value of straw bale walls. I only have the old work that was done by Joe McCabe and Nehemiah Stone.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">John is going for a 9 star rated wall system for the Victorian Government.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">If you are able to help us it would be very much appreciated mate.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Remember our down under rating systems are a wee bit different to yours in the USA.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I am working on walls 350 mm thick i.e. bales on edge as well as allowing for render on the external walls at least using lime render 45 mm thick.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks mate. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class="">Kind regards<br class="">Susan and John Glassford<br class="">Huff 'n' Puff Constructions<br class=""><a href="http://www.glassford.com.au/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.glassford.com.au</a><br class="">61 2 6927 6027<br class="">In Australia (02) 6927 6027</font><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class="">Mobile 0412 11 61 57</font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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