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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Agree about the repository idea.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Because of the calibre of contributions, there is
invaluable information available on all topics - but it is not easy to
find/access. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Keep the email list functioning as is, but maybe
archive the information in an easier-to-retrieve fashion. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I'm not techie so I don't know how hard that would
be. Also, I know that topics tend to diverge and expand from the original post -
so logical archiving may not always be that straightforward.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Feile</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=vankrieken@gmail.com href="mailto:vankrieken@gmail.com">Van
Krieken</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=GSBN@sustainablesources.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 28, 2014 8:05
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [GSBN] GSBN's future
structure</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>I totally agree with Derek. This GSBN format is unique also
because of the information quality, expected in each discussion.
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<DIV>Facebook business it's based on the quantity of discussions and number of
"users", good to spread quick messages. The combination between both is a good
way to help spread the technical content published in GSBN, but that is all.
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<DIV>Both realities are important, of course, but they are diferent.</DIV>
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<DIV>Please keep GSBN like it is. If I may give a sugestion, the GSBN
repository it is very important and should be organized in a simple but
eficient structure ( multi-categories), with a search engine to help find the
information. Sometime ago I was looking for information concerning
"foundations" and I had to use a software to "grab" all info from GSBN and
then make a search. Its a lot of work... I guess this repository could be part
of Bruce's portal?</DIV>
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<DIV>All the best</DIV>
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<DIV>Jorge Van Krieken</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Portugal</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 6:44 PM, André de Bouter <SPAN
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<DIV bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">I too really appreciate the GSBN crowd
and its format as it is.<BR>I've tried facebook, to see what it is, but am
not much inclined to increase my use of it (allready to complicated for me
;-) and I don't like it's policy
much.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>André<BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV>Le 28/02/2014 19:17, Bruce EBNet a écrit :<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Yup, I also agree completely with Derek. Let Facebook
groups do what they do best -- act as successors to the first straw bale
lists serves that were forever boiling with newbies -- and let GSBN remain
a bit more calm.
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<DIV>We've never been snooty about allowing anyone in who has decent
credibility, and I don't imagine anyone wants to change that. Yet
we've never been encumbered by noise, rants, or other time wasters.</DIV>
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<DIV>I love GSBN. Long live GSBN and noble Bill who keeps us
live.<BR>
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<DIV>On Feb 28, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Danny Buck <<A
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<DIV>I totally agree with Derek. Well said as usual.<BR><BR>Danny
Buck<BR><BR>On 2/28/14 9:46 AM, Derek Stearns Roff wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I've changed the subject line, to focus on the specific question
of GSBNs future structure. I'm finding it challenging to follow
this topic mixed in with other questions. </DIV>
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<DIV>I favor continuing GSBN as it is. I think it serves a
valuable and unique niche. Our members have differing needs, and GSBN
serves some of those needs well. In my view, we have created an
important community on GSBN, that I want to maintain. The fact
that the list is quiet for weeks at a time is a virtue. It
allows important mutual support and high-level discussion on
topics when needed, and isn't a burden during the rest of the time.
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<DIV>Facebook serves other needs and other forms of use. The
Strawbale list on Facebook has existed for I don't know how long- more
than a year. It has more than 1,100 members. Some members
of GSBN are on the Facebook SB list, and everyone could be, if they
wanted to be. But closing GSBN would not enhance the Facebook
group, it would just eliminate the unique community that we have here.
You can't have this kind of community and interaction on a list
with Facebook's level of traffic, member quantity, and mix of topics
and postings. Facebook is great for reaching a lot of people in
a fairly superficial way. That is important, but it isn't the
only thing that is important. GSBN is important too.
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<DIV>Derek</DIV>
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<DIV>On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Bill Christensen wrote:</DIV><BR>
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<DIV>On 2/27/14 8:10 PM, Frank Tettemer wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Tony, that was a wake up for me. I
hadn't even considered Liz might not be on the list. And so I
began to consider who else might not be on the
list.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">In an effort to leave no stones unturned,
I would like to nominate the following:<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Dawn Marie Smith<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Anna Wolfson<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Michael Henry<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Emily Rydell Niehaus<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">I'd also like to apologize to any of the
people, nominated above, who are reading this right
now,<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">because, they are already on this
list!<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">I just didn't know.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>Dawn and Emily are already
here.<BR><BR>Anna, Michael, and Liz Johndrow are not yet (or they're
unidentified non-contributors at the moment).<BR><BR>I'll need their
email addresses or better still they can sign up by following the
link at the bottom of <A href="http://sustainablesources.com/GSBN/"
target=_blank>http://sustainablesources.com/GSBN/</A>, and then let
me now and I can make them contributing members.<BR><BR>Regarding
the idea of combining lists: I definitely support
putting the bioenergy and SBRUs lists together. It seems
they've been redundant since shortly after the REPP list cratered
for a while, SBRUs was created, and then REPP was
reconstituted.<BR><BR>The original reason for GSBN's existence was
that those lists were bale-hammered on a regular basis by well
meaning newbies. Us old codgers (experience-wise, not
necessarily chronologically) got tired of repeating the same answers
again and again, and a bunch of the really knowledgeable old codgers
got too busy working on codes and other big-picture stuff to wade
into the fray often, if at all. GSBN became the place for 'higher
level' discussions regarding the strawbale movement, techniques,
etc. And it has proven to work very well for that over the
many years (since 1998 at least).<BR><BR>If y'all are of a mind to
open GSBN to everyone (and I know some of you have been for a fair
while), or to combine it with some new SB überlist I'm cool with
that too. Opening to all just involves a couple clicks of my
all-powerful mouse. Combining lists can be a little more
difficult (archive transfers and all that) but is not
impossible.<BR><BR>But I'd want to hear a decisive decision one way
or the other from the majority of
you.<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>GSBN
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