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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I totally agree with all of Derek’s points about why GSBN should
continue as is.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I regard the GBSN as an invaluable resource and a unique
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> GSBN-bounces@sustainablesources.com
[mailto:GSBN-bounces@sustainablesources.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Derek Stearns
Roff<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 February 2014 06:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Global Straw Building Network<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [GSBN] GSBN's future structure<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I've changed the subject line, to focus on the specific
question of GSBNs future structure. I'm finding it challenging to follow
this topic mixed in with other questions. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I favor continuing GSBN as it is. I think it serves a
valuable and unique niche. Our members have differing needs, and GSBN serves
some of those needs well. In my view, we have created an important
community on GSBN, that I want to maintain. The fact that the list is
quiet for weeks at a time is a virtue. It allows important mutual support
and high-level discussion on topics when needed, and isn't a burden during
the rest of the time. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Facebook serves other needs and other forms of use.
The Strawbale list on Facebook has existed for I don't know how long-
more than a year. It has more than 1,100 members. Some members of
GSBN are on the Facebook SB list, and everyone could be, if they wanted to be.
But closing GSBN would not enhance the Facebook group, it would just
eliminate the unique community that we have here. You can't have this
kind of community and interaction on a list with Facebook's level of traffic,
member quantity, and mix of topics and postings. Facebook is great for
reaching a lot of people in a fairly superficial way. That is important,
but it isn't the only thing that is important. GSBN is important too.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Derek<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 27, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Bill Christensen wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 2/27/14 8:10 PM, Frank Tettemer wrote:<br>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Tony, that was a wake up for me. I hadn't even
considered Liz might not be on the list. And so I began to consider who else
might not be on the list.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>In an effort to leave no stones unturned, I would like to
nominate the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Dawn Marie Smith<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Anna Wolfson<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Michael Henry<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Emily Rydell Niehaus<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I'd also like to apologize to any of the people, nominated
above, who are reading this right now,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>because, they are already on this list!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I just didn't know.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Dawn and Emily are already here.<br>
<br>
Anna, Michael, and Liz Johndrow are not yet (or they're unidentified
non-contributors at the moment).<br>
<br>
I'll need their email addresses or better still they can sign up by following
the link at the bottom of <a href="http://sustainablesources.com/GSBN/">http://sustainablesources.com/GSBN/</a>,
and then let me now and I can make them contributing members.<br>
<br>
Regarding the idea of combining lists: I definitely support putting
the bioenergy and SBRUs lists together. It seems they've been redundant
since shortly after the REPP list cratered for a while, SBRUs was created, and
then REPP was reconstituted.<br>
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The original reason for GSBN's existence was that those lists were
bale-hammered on a regular basis by well meaning newbies. Us old codgers
(experience-wise, not necessarily chronologically) got tired of repeating the
same answers again and again, and a bunch of the really knowledgeable old
codgers got too busy working on codes and other big-picture stuff to wade into
the fray often, if at all. GSBN became the place for 'higher level' discussions
regarding the strawbale movement, techniques, etc. And it has proven to
work very well for that over the many years (since 1998 at least).<br>
<br>
If y'all are of a mind to open GSBN to everyone (and I know some of you have
been for a fair while), or to combine it with some new SB überlist I'm cool
with that too. Opening to all just involves a couple clicks of my
all-powerful mouse. Combining lists can be a little more difficult
(archive transfers and all that) but is not impossible.<br>
<br>
But I'd want to hear a decisive decision one way or the other from the majority
of you.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Derek Roff</span></span><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
<span class=apple-style-span><a href="mailto:derek@unm.edu">derek@unm.edu</a></span><br>
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