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<FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:9pt'>Hello all,<BR>
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Thanks Bruce for providing the link to the news video, and Graeme for the reports from your clients. Good points raised by all.<BR>
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Many questions and issues come up for me.<BR>
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Bruce, why do you say “the SB house is standing, when the neighborhood is not.”? Are there photos or reports of homes surrounding this SB house that have collapsed?<BR>
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I think the news video <U>really</U> makes strawbale look bad, not just “sort of”. Between the sizeable cracks and spalled plaster (under the window), the reporter’s characterization of the damage, and the owner’s worried look and use of words like “bomb-site” and “unlivable”, a viewer’s opinion of strawbale buildings will certainly be negative. It reminds me of the electrical fire that occurred in the attic of one of the China (Mongolia?) SB houses that inappropriately used loose straw as insulation. This event indefinitely harmed SB’s reputation there and turned many away from it. I hope that letters to editors, or comparisons to nearby houses that suffered more damage, or showing well-built SB houses that suffered little damage can help reverse the negative PR.<BR>
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One would expect cracks in plaster shear walls as they resist a moderate to large seismic event. It’s part of how the system absorbs and dissipates energy. But at magnitude 6.2 I’m not sure I would even call this moderate (no offense to those who suffered from this earthquake) (</SPAN><FONT SIZE="5"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>*</SPAN></FONT><SPAN STYLE='font-size:9pt'>see NZ legislation definition of a moderate earthquake below). By comparison, the 2003 San Simeon earthquake, inland from California’s central coast, was a magnitude 6.5, and Ken Haggard and Turko Semmes reported little or no damage to the numerous straw bale buildings they designed or built in the area. Seeing this kind of damage to the building in the video in a lower magnitude earthquake leads me to believe its lateral systems was under-designed and/or poorly constructed. (Acknowledging there are many relevant variables, including proximity, direction of force, and especially geologic conditions at a particular location.)<BR>
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Questions I have about the house:<BR>
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Is it load bearing or post & beam with SB infill? What is the in-plane lateral resisting system? If SB shear walls, what are the connecting details (top and bottom plates, mesh attachment). Is the mesh embedded in the plaster? Does the plaster bond with the straw (wherever there is a crack or spalling, I see a sheet material, not straw).<BR>
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One long-term concern I have about SB buildings in moderate to severe earthquakes, is that plasters will likely crack (or exhibit crushing at the bottom of the walls), especially for buildings with SB shear walls. This is fine, in that it’s how the system works, and in most cases the cracked or crushed areas should be repairable, making the building ready to resist the next earthquake. However, my concern is one of perception. Many people, including literally and figuratively shaken owners and occupants will see these buildings (and SB) as a failure, or at the minimum their confidence will be undermined. Not sure there’s an answer to this, just stating a concern.<BR>
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Martin Hammer<BR>
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</SPAN><FONT SIZE="5"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12pt'>*</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10pt'>Earthquake-prone buildings: moderate earthquake defined (per New Zealand Parliamentary legislation)<BR>
. . . moderate earthquake means, in relation to a building, an earthquake that would generate shaking at the site of the building that is of the same duration as, but that is one-third as strong as, the earthquake shaking (determined by normal measures of acceleration, velocity, and displacement) that would be used to design a new building at that site.<BR>
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On 1/25/14 7:38 AM, "Derek Roff" <<a href="derek@unm.edu">derek@unm.edu</a>> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:9pt'>One of the odd things about the video clip, is that the report focuses primarily on "claims". The announcers begin by talking about the "hundreds of lodged claims already", and the on-location reporter begins by saying that over 650 claims have been received. With this journalistic orientation, it is not surprising that they featured a badly damaged house, and emphasized the problems. I wonder if the owner's assertion, that the house is "unlivable", stems from a desire to have the house replaced, rather than repaired. The segment ends with more discussion of claims, and advice on submitting claims. Not a single mention of injuries, or how nice it is that there weren't injuries. Everything is about property and cost, in this report. <BR>
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As far as the plaster missing below the exterior window, it looks to me like there is a fabric of some kind draped from right below the sill beam to almost the grade level. Perhaps this was done for water diversion, but it looks like there would be zero connection between the plaster and the bales in this area. <BR>
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Derek<BR>
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On Jan 24, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Timok33 wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:9pt'>My thoughts exactly Jeff. And the large section that sheeted off bellow the window didn't look mechanically bonded at all. <BR>
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It would be great to see a comparison to other structures nearby but I would not call this a success in my book. <BR>
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Tim<BR>
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Please excuse brevity and typos as I use my mobile device <BR>
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On Jan 23, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Jeff Ruppert <<a href="jeff@odiseanet.com">jeff@odiseanet.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:9pt'>I have to say, after seeing walls that have undergone a lot of stress, the plaster on the house in the video looked like it had not been adhered to the bales very well. The one shot showing the chicken wire reminded me of our compression tests where the walls with mesh were actually weaker than those with mesh (we used chicken wire as well). On our tests it appeared that the plaster was inhibited from being worked into the bales properly due to the mesh. <BR>
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Jeff<BR>
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On Jan 23, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Graeme North <<a href="graeme@ecodesign.co.nz">graeme@ecodesign.co.nz</a>> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:9pt'>Hi Folks<BR>
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I have designed a straw bale house that was near the failed s/bale building. The one that failed I know noting about.<BR>
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Here is what my clients have to say with a few more personal bits taken out:<BR>
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<I>Hi Graeme<BR>
How are you doing? I was just thinking of you the other day, so thanks<BR>
for mailing. We're doing just fine here, and no, we aren't the one<BR>
that had the damage, as you well could have guessed. That house is not<BR>
far away, we have visited it before, and while it looked lovely, it had<BR>
a very small hat, a butynol roof with sod on top that apparently leaked<BR>
quite a bit before the quake, and cement based plaster that has fallen<BR>
off all oevr the place. In fact, we got a visit two days ago from the<BR>
local council inspectors who just wanted to see whether our place held<BR>
up ok, straight after they visited the other one. We suspect that they<BR>
were trying to see if straw, as a rule, was a failed material.<BR>
Thankfully we were able to reassure them :) <BR>
We do have a few minor cracks (it was a big shake), just at joins<BR>
between materials - despite reinforcing the joins, I guess that was to<BR>
be expected. But nothing we can't fix with a few days fiddling around<BR>
(and thankfully no EQC required... we have no insurance anyway :)<BR>
………..<BR>
take care<BR>
Kyle<BR>
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Hello Graeme,<BR>
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it is nice to hear from you! I think Kyle has already replied, and so you will know that our home performed very well during the quake. kyle was away at the time.. I was dumb struck for a while before I registered that it was an earthquake..by the time that happened, it was all over. we have a few superficial cracks where straw meets wood...otherwise nothing more..several glass trinkets and pottery items fell off of shelves and smashed, which made a mess, but while pretty, were not overly valuable.<BR>
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The poor old house that was in the media was built in every way, how straw bales should not be built..it hasn't faired well in the wet weather or the shakes. I think the local council have been stressed out about it, and unfortunately, the media have made straw bale homes look suspect...regardless, we are very happy, safe and warm, and , even if the quake flattened our home, we would be happy to shake off the dust, collect the recyclable materials, and start again.<BR>
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Take care and love to you both<BR>
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Janet<BR>
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On 24/01/2014, at 1:21 AM, Frank Tettemer <<a href="frank@livingsol.com">frank@livingsol.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:9pt'>AT exactly 1:00 minute into the video that Bruce linked us to, there is a view into the wall, between a wider crack. It looks a lot like Chicken Wire that was used as a plaster lathe. Isn't chicken wire one of those materials, (like rebar stakes), that has evolved over time, to be replaced by something less stretchy? Like welded fencing wire, or, Tenax cinteflex plastering lathe? Considering the stretchy nature of chicken wire, I posit that the plaster render itself was the active material in absorbing the shaking energy. Kudos to plaster!<BR>
Frank Tettemer<BR>
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/A straw bale home in Pahiatua succumbed to the quake.The home's plaster is split, with cracks visible both inside and out.The occupant, Belinda Payton, said she was vacuuming the floor and heard some rumbling. "And the floor started shaking and I just ran out the door," she said. "We had a look inside and it was just like a bombsite. I was was shocked. It's unlivable." <<a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/earthquake-claims-roll-in-amid-clean-up-aftershocks-5804294>/">http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/earthquake-claims-roll-in-amid-clean-up-aftershocks-5804294>/</a><BR>
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Actually, all the news reports talk about minor damage and no injuries. Though one set of commercial buildings would need to be torn down, there wasn't a report <<a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9629660/Severe-quake-rattles-lower-North-Island">http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9629660/Severe-quake-rattles-lower-North-Island</a>> of another residence being seriously affected. The Kiwis seem to take 6.3 in stride:/ "//Pam Lochore, wife of All Blacks great Brian Lochore, said photographs had fallen off shelves and "a rugby ball went flying across the room" ...." /Not enough to severely interrupt a broadcast of a dog race.... <<a href="http://youtu.be/Fgh3lptxESI">http://youtu.be/Fgh3lptxESI</a>><BR>
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The damage to the strawbale looks to be much as we anticipate....major cracking in the sacrificial stucco but the structure otherwise in tact. It looks horrible, though, and Belinda is clearly shaken, but I don't see damage other than plaster cracks--no broken windows or toppled structure. The plaster obviously absorbed a great deal of the energy.<BR>
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John "Rolling Motion" Swearingen<BR>
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On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Bruce EBNet <<a href="bruce@ecobuildnetwork.org">bruce@ecobuildnetwork.org</a> <<a href="mailto:bruce@ecobuildnetwork.org>">mailto:bruce@ecobuildnetwork.org></a>> wrote:<BR>
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This TV spot sort of makes it look bad -- but the SB house is standing, when the neighborhood is not. Courtesy of Hugh Morris, with a fancy nod to Graeme North. Any of you Kiwis know which house this is? Did you build it?<BR>
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Bruce King<BR>
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<a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/residents-count-cost-north-island-quake-video-5804861">http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/residents-count-cost-north-island-quake-video-5804861</a><BR>
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