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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello everybody,<br>
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Thanks for all the comments on préfab.<br>
It reminded my that Steen Möller in Denmark (who I last saw 3
years ago) also had an interesting sb prefab concept. But I do not
have his email.<br>
Anybody have his contact info?<br>
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André <br>
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PS. very happy that TLS is back and keen to read Chris' article.<br>
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Le 07/10/2013 05:07, Chris Magwood a écrit :<br>
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That's interesting that you're finding that prefab is at the high
end of the scale, because the NatureBuilt crew are able to install
them for a cost similar to conventional framing and lower than any
of the site-built bale companies in Ontario... around
$16-18/square foot of wall.<br>
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The more expensive systems seem to be the ones that are still
plastered in an upright position, typically on-site after the
panels are installed. The NatureBuilt panels are plastered in a
single coat in a horizontal position, and that's where the
time/labour/money savings lies.<br>
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I'm keen to talk to all the various producers for TLS...<br>
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Chris<br>
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On 13-10-03 2:48 AM, John Glassford wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">G ' day Andre
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<div>I agree with your observations on the cost of straw
pre-fab panels are at the high end of the scale as far as
straw bale building goes.</div>
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<div>Initially the development, testing and marketing side of
the panels is costly. Production costs to make these panels
will reduce as the techniques improve and the output
increases with experience.</div>
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<div>We have been tinkering with all of the above for a long
time now and we feel we are now in a good position.</div>
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<div>The main advantage is the speed these walls go up ready
for roofing in a very short time. This will reflect in the
end price due to the reduction in labour costs.</div>
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<div>At the moment the walls only constitute 20-30% of the
total build of a pre-fab panel straw bale building. The
other costs are equal when comparing methods used for the
foundation, floor, roofing, windows doors fit out and so on.
Then that applies to any straw bale house unless it is a
vault!</div>
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<div>So there is a saving to be had from pre-fab straw panels
if built by professional builders versus owner builders.</div>
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<div>Here most straw bale homes are competitive to any other
form of building and most professional builders start at
$1,500 per square metre and ever upwards. Some owner
builders in our experience have built for $500 per square
metre using straw bales. We also know of straw bale
buildings to cost up to $4,000 per square metre here in
Australia.</div>
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<div>The pre-fab straw panels offers the professional builder
and designers a good option when considering straw bales.
Our experience suggests that there is a good future for
this technology. We are also working on a portable factory
system for developing nations where the cost of labour is
low and community can get involved to build and finish a
home that looks like concrete blocks. </div>
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<div>Anyhow think on Andre it maybe a good way to get the
professional builders to take up straw bale building, who
knows. </div>
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