<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div>Sorry, hit send too fast.<div><br></div><div>Language looks great, Bill . . . though perhaps just a tad blunt at the start. Perhaps </div><div>"The ability to post to GSBN is by invitation only. "</div><div>could become:</div><div>"Sorry, but the ability to post to GSBN is by invitation only. "</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 12px; ">Thanks,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; font-size: 12px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 12px; ">Bruce "Miss Manners" King</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 12px; "><br></div></div> </div><br><div><div>On Dec 11, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Bill Christensen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> I don't think I'd go so far as an Occupy GSBN movement... I'm not a fan of tear gas or confrontational techniques myself. ;-) Besides, the only pigs at the straw construction trough are three little ones, and they're in the 99%. <br> <br> Here's what I've written for the rejection notice for posts from uninvited guests:<br> <blockquote>The ability to post to GSBN is by invitation only. Any posts sent to the GSBN address from email addresses which have not been approved to post are automatically discarded. <br> <br> The Global Straw Building Network is a private discussion list with publicly available archives and the option for anyone to subscribe in non-post mode. It is composed of representatives of regional organizations and other non-affiliated key individuals involved in the general advancement of straw-bale and other straw-use building materials and techniques. The intentionally small number of members range from highly experienced professionals to well informed laypeople.<br> <br> Other discussion forums about building with straw exist elsewhere for those who are new to the process and/or to building techniques in general. Please see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://strawbale.sustainablesources.com">http://strawbale.sustainablesources.com</a> or <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sustainablesources.com/resources/online-discussions/">http://sustainablesources.com/resources/online-discussions/</a> to join them. <br> <br> Should you have further questions about the operation of GSBN, please contact the list maintainer/host at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sustainablesources.com/about/contact-us/">http://sustainablesources.com/about/contact-us/</a> <br> <br> </blockquote> I'm open to edits or feedback on all of this. <br> <br> <br> On 12/11/11 9:58 PM, Maurice Bennett wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:7c36ee1c-4805-49d5-c58e-f36c7279142e@me.com" type="cite"> <div>The wider the audience the wider the acceptance of all that this group attempts to foster. The membership should not be opened to one and all but the information certainly deserves to be available.<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>So are we advocating Occupy GSBN?<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>MHB<br> </div> <div><br> On Dec 11, 2011, at 04:50 PM, Bruce King <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bruce@ecobuildnetwork.org"><bruce@ecobuildnetwork.org></a> wrote:<br> <br> <div> <blockquote type="cite"> <div class="msg-quote" style="word-wrap: break-word;" _mce_style="word-wrap: break-word;"> <div><br> </div> Sounds like a great idea to me. I don't remember writing or reading anything here that couldn't be made public. And anyway, as you say we're all aware that once you send an email anywhere, it's public or at least findable. <div><br> </div> <div>Let's not go hiding our torches or candles or sometimes teensy burning match ends under bushel baskets. Let GSBN free!</div> <div><br> <div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;" _mce_style="border-collapse: separate; color: #000000; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"> <div style="word-wrap: break-word;" _mce_style="word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;" _mce_style="font-size: 12px;"> <div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none;" _mce_style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin: 0px;">Thanks,</div> <div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none; min-height: 14px;" _mce_style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; margin: 0px;"><br> </div> <div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none;" _mce_style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin: 0px;">Bruce King</div> <div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none;" _mce_style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin: 0px;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bruce@bruce-king.com" _mce_href="mailto:bruce@bruce-king.com">bruce@bruce-king.com</a> <div style="width: 0px; height: 0px;"> </div> </div> <div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none;" _mce_style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin: 0px;">(415) 987-7271</div> <div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none;" _mce_style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin: 0px;">Twitter: @EBNetwork</div> <div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none;" _mce_style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin: 0px;">bruceking.posterous.com</div> </span></div> </span> </div> <br> <div> <div>On Dec 11, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Bill Christensen wrote:</div> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite"> <div>Hi folks,<br> <br> As y'all might know by now, the GSBN discussions are interesting and popular, not just with GSBN folks but with others in the straw building world as well.<br> <br> We've long made the archives available to all. Google and other search engines regularly crawl the archives, so they're easily searchable by putting "GSBN" and your topic in the search field.<br> <br> But we also regularly get requests from non GSBN people who just want to be able to receive and read the emails and learn from them, without participating in the discussion. I just got another compelling request the other day which caused me to re-think things.<br> <br> Right now, GSBN is set up as an invitation-only list. I'm the only one who can subscribe people. If instead we changed the setup such that *anyone* can subscribe but only specific people (the current and future invited membership) can post to the discussion, with any other posts to the list getting rejected/returned to the sender, I think we can expand GSBN's influence. The whole point is to spread knowledge of best practices, after all.<br> <br> One change which would come from this is that those of us with multiple addresses would have to post from the correct one or we'll receive a rejection notice. Up til now I've been getting a notice any time one of you does that, then going in and reviewing the message and manually approving them for publication to the list. That won't happen any more.<br> <br> The only other potential downside - and it's sort of a moot point since the archives are published automatically - is that we would want to watch what we say about specific problems with specific projects. Not naming owners or builders or otherwise pointing fingers that could be followed by insurance companies or lawyers, for instance. I think we're all pretty careful about that anyway as most of us have been on the internet long enough to know that no email is truly private.<br> <br> I'm not attached to the decision either way but I'd like to hear some of your thoughts.<br> <br> -- <br> Bill Christensen<br> <br> <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://SustainableSources.com" _mce_href="http://SustainableSources.com">http://SustainableSources.com</a>><br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> GSBN mailing list<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:GSBN@sustainablesources.com" _mce_href="mailto:GSBN@sustainablesources.com">GSBN@sustainablesources.com</a><br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sustainablesources.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/GSBN">http://sustainablesources.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/GSBN</a><br> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> <div class="_stretch">_______________________________________________<br> GSBN mailing list<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:GSBN@sustainablesources.com" _mce_href="mailto:GSBN@sustainablesources.com">GSBN@sustainablesources.com</a><br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://sustainablesources.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/GSBN" _mce_href="http://sustainablesources.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/GSBN">http://sustainablesources.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/GSBN</a><br> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> <pre wrap=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
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