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Hello,<br>
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"<span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">Unfortunately,
this book is only in English."<br>
<br>
I think Jorge meant "French"<br>
<br>
All the best,<br>
André 'working on my swing' de Bouter<br>
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Le 29/11/2011 02:35, John Swearingen a écrit :
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cite="mid:CAKij1duZC55qeempZgu1qchyc8_zqB0R3xx=ePY6M14wKAvOAg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">This is very interesting, and fortunately in English.
Unfortunately, I don't really know what it means. Can you
explain more?
<div><br>
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<div>
<ul>
<li>U-value I know.</li>
<li>Thermal bridges to nowhere, I know, but what is a
"vented facade" (above).</li>
<li>What are daily indoor heat capacities and sequential head
capacities, and what does "strong" and "medium" mean?</li>
<li>Phase shift mitigation?</li>
</ul>
<div>Thanks!</div>
</div>
<div><br>
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On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Van Krieken <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:vankrieken@gmail.com">vankrieken@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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Hi
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</div>
<div>The best source of information about this issue (and
many others concerning insulation, thermal mass, etc) it
is the book writen by Jean-Pierre Oliva and Samuel Courgey
( L'Isolation Thermique Ecologique).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Citing their book, page 175, concerning a wall with
wood structure and straw bales with medium density (80 to
110 Kg/m3, strawbale section 34x46cm. Vented façade in
exterior, and interior with clay render.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thermal loss U (W/m2K) / R (m2K/W)
.................................. 0,13 / 7,76</div>
<div>Losses due to thermal
bridges............................................... 4%</div>
<div><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">Daily</span><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)"> </span><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">indoor</span><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)"> </span><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">heat
capacity (kWh/m2K)................................ 15
(strong)</span></div>
<div><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)"><span>Sequential
indoor</span> <span>heat capacity (</span></span><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">kWh/m2K)</span><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">.......................25
(medium)</span></div>
<div><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">Phase
shift (hour) / </span><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">mitigation</span><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)"> </span><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">of
the heat flux (%)............... 16h / 13%</span></div>
<div><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,245,245)">Unfortunately,
this book is only in English. Jean-Pierre Oliva, is one
of the best known french bio climatic architects, and
since many years a great enthusiast of straw bale
building. His books (also La Architectire Bioclimatique)
can be found at Amazon.</span></div>
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<div><span
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the best</span></div>
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<div><span
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VK</span></div>
<div><span
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:55
PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div> <font face="Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif">Ken, Polly Cooper and Jennifer
Rennick's chapter that John mention's in
that Wiley book - Alternative
Construction: Contemporary Natural
Building Methods, </font>has a lot of
information on this though they don't use
the term "decrement." They talk about this
issue with straw and other types of wall
systems and go into considerable detail. I
would get in touch with them and see what
they have to say. <br>
<br>
David Eisenberg<br>
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Hi Martin,
<div>Without going back to the
details, I could be mistaken, but it
seems that a study by Ken Haggard a
while back addressed this or similar
properties. I found reference in a
GSBN email from '07- see below. Is
this the same metric?</div>
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<div>Laura</div>
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<div>John,<br>
<br>
There is that chapter from Ken
Haggard and Polly Cooper on Natural<br>
Conditioning in the book Alternative
Construction where they look at<br>
this. I was looking at it just
recently for some curriculum
development.<br>
<br>
Laura<br>
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John Swearingen wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Very
interesting paper, and well
written. Some time ago I remember
hearing<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">someone toss
out some similar observations
about thermal storage, that on a<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">diurnal
cycle, plaster is activated to a
depth of about 2-3 inches<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">(5cm
-7.5cm). I have always figured
that the exceptional thermal<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">performance
of<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">straw bale
buildings is not due solely to the
high R-value. The broad<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">thermal mass
of the plastered walls, readily
available to indoor air for<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">heat
exchange, modulates temperatures
like my pink Cadillac modulates
bumps<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">in the road.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">Does anyone
know of research and measurements
of short and medium thermal<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">storage in
walls?<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">John
"Diurnally Yours" Swearingen</blockquote>
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