<p>Hello all. I love this discussion and agree with the expansion idea.</p>
<p>To that end, and partly because Tim mentioned it, I would like to nominate Art Ludwig to the list.</p>
<p>Not exclusively a straw builder - but a crucial resource and designer of related systems - aka grey water, whole systems design, code work, etc.<br /></p>
<p>He would be a great asset to the list and is very keen to listen in and add his expertise.</p>
<p>Tracy<br /></p>
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<div>How about evolving the art, craft, and science of building with nature. </div>
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<div><br />On Nov 24, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Graeme North <<a href="mailto:graeme@ecodesign.co.nz">graeme@ecodesign.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br /><br /></div>
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<div>I also agree to a change in the name to what it is already - brilliant! Fixing the Middle East may take us a wee bit longer than this.
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<div><span style="font-size: 12px;">But maybe we could think about having a mission statement in the background such as ; </span></div>
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<div>Points to David for noticing the humor in my proposal. I too don't wish to change the name just continue to extend the scope to people that use less straw in their integrated and thorough approach to solving the challenges of building with our ever increasing knowledge. </div>
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<div><br />On Nov 23, 2011, at 10:51 AM, "David Arkin, AIA" <<a href="mailto:david@arkintilt.com"></a><a href="mailto:david@arkintilt.com">david@arkintilt.com</a>> wrote:<br /><br /></div>
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<div>I like the humor ... a proposal to change our name to the name it already has! I second the motion, and agree there is much to be learned through discussion of the broader use of straw as a building resource. And also approve of Paula's joining the GSBN.</div>
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<div>And, to top that, I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving (Americans and non-Americans alike); definition via Wikipedia below.</div>
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<div>So much to be thankful for,</div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; font-family: sans-serif;"><strong>Thanksgiving Day</strong> is a holiday celebrated primarily in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_%28United_States%29" title="Thanksgiving (United States)" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">United States</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_%28Canada%29" title="Thanksgiving (Canada)" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">Canada</a>. Thanksgiving is celebrated each year on the second Monday of October in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada" title="Canada" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">Canada</a> and on the fourth Thursday of November in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" title="United States" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">United States</a>. In Canada, Thanksgiving falls on the same day as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Day" title="Columbus Day" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">Columbus Day</a> in the United States. Because of the longstanding traditions of the holiday, the celebration often extends to the weekend that falls closest to the day it is celebrated.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; font-family: sans-serif;">Thanksgiving in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America" title="North America" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">North America</a> had originated from a mix of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe" title="Europe" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">European</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas" title="Indigenous peoples of the Americas" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">Native</a> traditions.<sup id="cite_ref-Ann_0-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving#cite_note-Ann-0" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none; white-space: nowrap;"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup> Typically in Europe, festivals were held before and after the harvest cycles to give thanks for a good harvest, and to rejoice together after much hard work with the rest of the community.<sup id="cite_ref-Ann_0-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving#cite_note-Ann-0" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none; white-space: nowrap;"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup> At the time, Native Americans had also celebrated the end of a harvest season.<sup id="cite_ref-Ann_0-2" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving#cite_note-Ann-0" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none; white-space: nowrap;"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup> When Europeans first arrived to the Americas, they brought with them their own <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_festival" title="Harvest festival" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">harvest festival</a> traditions from Europe, celebrating their safe voyage, peace and good harvest.<sup id="cite_ref-Ann_0-3" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving#cite_note-Ann-0" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none; white-space: nowrap;"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup> Though the origins of the holiday in both <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada" title="Canada" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">Canada</a> and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" title="United States" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">United States</a> are similar, Americans do not typically celebrate the contributions made in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_%28island%29" title="Newfoundland (island)" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">Newfoundland</a>, while Canadians do not celebrate the contributions made in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth,_Massachusetts" title="Plymouth, Massachusetts" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">Plymouth</a>,<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts" title="Massachusetts" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none;">Massachusetts</a>.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving#cite_note-1" style="text-decoration: none; color: #0645ad; background-image: none; white-space: nowrap;"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a></sup></span><br />
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<blockquote type="cite">I'd Love to have Paula as part of this group.<br /><br />It brings up another question I've been wanting to pose which I think is pertinent to the down turn in participation and energy at CASBA and presumably around the world in Straw Bale specifically. I haven't done an only Straw Bale building for a while and don't consider myself a straw bale builder. Straw is the most common insulation I use in the Natural and green buildings I design and build. More and More I think of my buildings as more or less insulative, massive, and or structural substrates for plaster. I know some don't plaster their bales but as cavalier as I am I still don't think that is worth the savings even if you want wood cladding. The most interesting and valuable discussions on this list for me are often the ones that are barely connected to straw bale. And I would hate to loose this community of collaboration or keep people from posing their green or natural building quandaries to this esteemed group if they don't have anything to do with straw bale. <br /> <br />SO, I would propose we change our name to the Global Straw Building Network (to minimize the shift) and open our ranks to the world of excellent Natural Builders that are trying to look deeply and globally at the scalability of local building systems and keeping them evolving with Building Science. <br /> <br />So if this Idea isn't too offensive, there's a few like Michael Smith, Art Ludwig, and John Fordice and others.<br /><br />I might be contradicting my desire for fewer and more efficient communications for this group but consolidating straw building techniques has become an itch I can't keep from scratching.<br /> <br />Happiness, health, and humor to you all,<br /><br />Tim<br /><br /><br /><br />
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<div> <font face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">All,<br /> <br />I nominate Paula Baker-Laporte to the GSBN. As I said in my previous e-mail Paula is an architect and leading practitioner (along with her husband and builder Robert Laporte) of ?light clay? construction in the US. You can see Paula and Robert's beautiful work at <a href="http://www.econesthomes.com/" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.econesthomes.com/"></a><a href="http://www.econesthomes.com">www.econesthomes.com</a>, and in their book EcoNest. Having a leading authority on this method of construction would be a great addition to the GSBN.<br /> <br />Martin Hammer</span></font> </div>
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