<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">FYI: In the Spanish Speaking Strawbale Network, we took out the word "bale" years ago... because depending on what part of the world you live in, it's different (paca, bala, alpaca, fardo...) But Straw is Always "Paja" so we are just the "Straw Building Network" (but said in spanish!). When we translate it to English we should say "Spanish Straw Building Network" as well (and Spanish refering to the Language, not just the country).<div><br></div><div>Thumbs up to the change/return to the name Building instead of Bale.</div><div><br></div><div>love, <br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Garamond; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; 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"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Bradley Hand ITC TT'; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Bradley Hand ITC TT'; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>Rikki Jennifer Nitzkin</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Self-builder, education and consultation Straw Bale building and Earth Plaster</div><div><div><a href="mailto:rikkinitzkin@earthlink.net">rikkinitzkin@earthlink.net</a></div><div><a href="http://www.rikkinitzkin.wordpress.com">www.rikkinitzkin.wordpress.com</a> </div><div>0034 657 33 51 62</div><div>Aulás, Lerida (Spain)</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Coordinator Spanish Straw Bale Network</div><div><a href="http://www.casasdepaja.org">www.casasdepaja.org</a></div><div><a href="mailto:info@casasdepaja.org">info@casasdepaja.org</a></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><div>"Yo never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing Model obsolete." Buckminster Fuller</div></div><div><br></div></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>El 25/11/2011, a las 0:08, Graeme North escribió:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I also agree to a change in the name to what it is already - brilliant! Fixing the Middle East may take us a wee bit longer than this.<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">But maybe we could think about having a mission statement in the background such as ; </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">GSBN : "Promoting the art, craft, and science of natural building"</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">Graeme</span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div>Graeme North Architects</div><div>49 Matthew Road</div><div>RD1</div><div>Warkworth</div><div>tel/fax +64 (0)9 4259305</div><div> </div><div><a href="mailto:graeme@ecodesign.co.nz">graeme@ecodesign.co.nz</a></div><div><a href="http://www.ecodesign.co.nz">www.ecodesign.co.nz</a></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span> </div> <br><div><div>On 25/11/2011, at 5:28 AM, Timok33 wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Points to David for noticing the humor in my proposal. I too don't wish to change the name just continue to extend the scope to people that use less straw in their integrated and thorough approach to solving the challenges of building with our ever increasing knowledge. </div><div><br></div><div>Tim<br><br>Please excuse brevity and typos as I use my mobile device<div><br></div></div><div><br>On Nov 23, 2011, at 10:51 AM, "David Arkin, AIA" <<a href="mailto:david@arkintilt.com">david@arkintilt.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi Tim:<div><br></div><div>I like the humor ... a proposal to change our name to the name it already has! I second the motion, and agree there is much to be learned through discussion of the broader use of straw as a building resource. And also approve of Paula's joining the GSBN.</div><div><br></div><div>And, to top that, I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving (Americans and non-Americans alike); definition via Wikipedia below.</div><div><br></div><div>So much to be thankful for,</div><div><br></div><div>David Arkin</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; font-family: sans-serif; "><b>Thanksgiving Day</b> is a holiday celebrated primarily in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_(United_States)" title="Thanksgiving (United States)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">United States</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_(Canada)" title="Thanksgiving (Canada)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Canada</a>. Thanksgiving is celebrated each year on the second Monday of October in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada" title="Canada" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Canada</a> and on the fourth Thursday of November in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" title="United States" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">United States</a>. In Canada, Thanksgiving falls on the same day as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Day" title="Columbus Day" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Columbus Day</a> in the United States. Because of the longstanding traditions of the holiday, the celebration often extends to the weekend that falls closest to the day it is celebrated.</span></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; font-family: sans-serif; ">Thanksgiving in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America" title="North America" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">North America</a> had originated from a mix of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe" title="Europe" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">European</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas" title="Indigenous peoples of the Americas" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Native</a> traditions.<sup id="cite_ref-Ann_0-0" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving#cite_note-Ann-0" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup> Typically in Europe, festivals were held before and after the harvest cycles to give thanks for a good harvest, and to rejoice together after much hard work with the rest of the community.<sup id="cite_ref-Ann_0-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving#cite_note-Ann-0" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup> At the time, Native Americans had also celebrated the end of a harvest season.<sup id="cite_ref-Ann_0-2" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving#cite_note-Ann-0" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup> When Europeans first arrived to the Americas, they brought with them their own <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_festival" title="Harvest festival" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">harvest festival</a> traditions from Europe, celebrating their safe voyage, peace and good harvest.<sup id="cite_ref-Ann_0-3" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving#cite_note-Ann-0" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a></sup> Though the origins of the holiday in both <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada" title="Canada" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Canada</a> and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" title="United States" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">United States</a> are similar, Americans do not typically celebrate the contributions made in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_(island)" title="Newfoundland (island)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Newfoundland</a>, while Canadians do not celebrate the contributions made in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth,_Massachusetts" title="Plymouth, Massachusetts" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Plymouth</a>,<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts" title="Massachusetts" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Massachusetts</a>.<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference" style="line-height: 1em; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; "><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving#cite_note-1" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background-image: none; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: initial; white-space: nowrap; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a></sup></span><br><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Nov 23, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Tim Owen-Kennedy wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I'd Love to have Paula as part of this group.<br><br>It brings up another question I've been wanting to pose which I think is pertinent to the down turn in participation and energy at CASBA and presumably around the world in Straw Bale specifically. I haven't done an only Straw Bale building for a while and don't consider myself a straw bale builder. Straw is the most common insulation I use in the Natural and green buildings I design and build. More and More I think of my buildings as more or less insulative, massive, and or structural substrates for plaster. I know some don't plaster their bales but as cavalier as I am I still don't think that is worth the savings even if you want wood cladding. The most interesting and valuable discussions on this list for me are often the ones that are barely connected to straw bale. And I would hate to loose this community of collaboration or keep people from posing their green or natural building quandaries to this esteemed group if they don't have anything to do with straw bale. <br> <br>SO, I would propose we change our name to the Global Straw Building Network (to minimize the shift) and open our ranks to the world of excellent Natural Builders that are trying to look deeply and globally at the scalability of local building systems and keeping them evolving with Building Science. <br> <br>So if this Idea isn't too offensive, there's a few like Michael Smith, Art Ludwig, and John Fordice and others.<br><br>I might be contradicting my desire for fewer and more efficient communications for this group but consolidating straw building techniques has become an itch I can't keep from scratching.<br> <br>Happiness, health, and humor to you all,<br><br>Tim<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:46 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:strawnet@aol.com"></a><a href="mailto:strawnet@aol.com">strawnet@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><font face="arial" size="2" color="black">I se<font face="arial" size="2" color="black"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">cond the nomination. Thanks Martin.<br> <br> David Eisenberg<br> </font> <div> <br> </div> <div> <br> </div> <div> <br> </div> <div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:10pt;color:black"><div><div class="h5">-----Original Message-----<br> From: martin hammer <<a href="mailto:mfhammer@pacbell.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:mfhammer@pacbell.net">mfhammer@pacbell.net</a>><br> To: GSBN <<a href="mailto:GSBN@SustainableSources.com"></a><a href="mailto:GSBN@SustainableSources.com">GSBN@SustainableSources.com</a>><br> Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 11:40 pm<br> Subject: [GSBN] Nomination of Paula Baker-Laporte<br> <br> <div> <font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt">All,<br> <br> I nominate Paula Baker-Laporte to the GSBN. As I said in my previous e-mail Paula is an architect and leading practitioner (along with her husband and builder Robert Laporte) of “light clay” construction in the US. 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