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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=green face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:green'>“Bengal Gor” is what is
stated in the archives. Some form of Molasses….was possibly a brand name
of the times???<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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GSBN-bounces@greenbuilder.com [mailto:GSBN-bounces@greenbuilder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John Swearingen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 09 March 2011 06:44 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> (private, with public
archives) Global Straw Building Network<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [GSBN] earthen floor
sealer in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Haiti</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Gorblimey, Andy! I was very interested in the recipe, but
got stuck on the Bengal Gor...is that dung of a <st1:place w:st="on">Bengal</st1:place>
tiger--seems a bit difficult to obtain. Or is it something obtained from
the planet Gor--equally difficult to obtain, but much more entertaining.
Or is it more prosaic?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Bill Steen <<a
href="mailto:bill@caneloproject.com">bill@caneloproject.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Well I certainly can't talk about environments as wet as Graeme
describes and perhaps the use of linseed oil will yield the results along the
same lines.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>What I will add is that the type of effects being described can often
happen when the oil doesn't penetrate well and it is left on the surface of the
floor.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The idea is to get it to penetrate fully and have no residual oil left
on top. Typically that happens as a result of applying too much oil or
the surface of the floor being troweled to the extent that it is densely
compacted and the oil can't penetrate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>When it comes to hardness, I can see little need for anything that
provides a harder surface than the linseed oil without jumping to a harder
floor material.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Going on to Tim's comments re: Robert Laporte on cheap cooking oil I
don't see any basis for them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Boiled linseed oil toughens and seals - but it is inclined to pick up
moisture in high humidity situations and go sticky - this is a problem in
my own place in high summer with humidities approaching 100% and chair, and
table legs stick to the floor surface and pull the surface off the floor - a
bit messy. This floor was saturated with linseed oil mind you - nearly 4
litres per sq.m. A great surface apart from this issue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Tung oil, unlike linseed oil which forms single linkages, forms double
linkages that make for a tougher surface which is less inclined to pick
up humidity, so I tend to use this now, more sparingly as it is more expensive
too. A bit of cow dung in the mix forms a wonderful satiny surface to the
floor.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I have passed some of this query on to a paint and oil natural oil
expert I know on these matters - hopefully he can cast some
light on this for us<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Briefly,<br>
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We have used Coconut oil at a clients request once because it wouldn't get
rancid. Though we have used Cheap cooking oil without complaints (based on a
workshop I took from Robert Laporte back in '95 so I don't know if that has
been thoroughly tested). If you can't find a hardening oil and with cost a main
issue I would be tempted to use filtered old cooking oil and heat it up (if you
can filter it enough).<br>
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TIm<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Andy Horn <<a
href="mailto:andy@ecodesignarchitects.co.za" target="_blank">andy@ecodesignarchitects.co.za</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I have an old reciet from the 1600's here in the <st1:place w:st="on">Cape</st1:place>
....also known as the<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Cape</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Storms</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> where the governor of the dutch
east Indians had to ban the<br>
building of thatch roof buildings because of a series of devatating fires<br>
that were experienced at the <st1:place w:st="on">Cape</st1:place> colony. So
flat roofs were mandated. The<br>
governor sent out for a top mason to give a recipe for waterproofing of<br>
flatish mono pitched Giorgian type buildings. Apparently despite much<br>
scepticism given the ferocity of the storms we get, it worked...and indeed<br>
there are still the odd example to be found around.<br>
<br>
The receipt says they made use of cocoa nut oil.....<br>
<br>
4 parts stamped lime shells taken out of the gravel of the oven (lime kiln),<br>
2 parts ordnary masons lime, 2 parts finely powdered bricks ....well mixed<br>
dry, then all this was mixed with coaoa nut oil....until mixed like dough.<br>
Then laid immediately 1 1/2 inches thick and rubbed in with a trowel and<br>
steadily beaten with wooden mallets. Gentle beating with not too heavy<br>
mallets. Whilst busy the 2nd layer was prepared with 10 parts finely sifted<br>
lime, 3 parts finely sifted gravel of baked bricks and 1 part <st1:place w:st="on">Bengal</st1:place>
gor or<br>
sediment of sugar (draf zuker = molasses). Treated the same way as the first<br>
mix and applied the same way. Finally a liquid composec of lime, oil and Gor<br>
is made with a strong hand and a smooth trowel well rubbed on the last coat.<br>
<br>
<br>
We also have a tradition of sealign earth floors here in the rural areas and<br>
on some of the old farms with either ox blood ....burnished into the clay<br>
coating or else cow dung or both. Normally the cowdung is smeared on while<br>
fresh as a thin coating ...and it hardens creating the finish (though a bit<br>
rough for my taste). However this is something done periodically to freshen<br>
up a space.<br>
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Andy</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Behalf Of Chug<br>
Sent: 08 March 2011 05:44 PM<br>
To: (private, with public archives) Global Straw Building Network<br>
Subject: Re: [GSBN] earthen floor sealer in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Haiti</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
<br>
I know a little about this from my involvement in biofuel and as Derelict<br>
wrote some oils are termed drying oils as they dry to a hard finish at<br>
normal room temperature,<br>
<br>
Dammar oil, from the Canarium strictum,<br>
Linseed oil, used in paints, also suitable for human consumption.<br>
Poppyseed oil, similar in usage to linseed oil but with better color<br>
stability.<br>
Stillingia oil (also called Chinese vegetable tallow oil), obtained by<br>
solvent from the seeds of Sapium sebiferum.<br>
Tung oil, used in wood finishing.<br>
Vernonia oil is produced from the seeds of the Vernonia galamensis.<br>
(Ironweed)<br>
<br>
In addition to the oils listed here, walnut, sunflower and safflower oil are<br>
<br>
also considered to be drying oils<br>
<br>
regards<br>
Chug<br>
<a href="mailto:chug@strawbale-building.co.uk" target="_blank">chug@strawbale-building.co.uk</a><br>
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888.859.6336<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#666666'>John Swearingen<br>
Skillful Means Design & Construction<br>
<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">2550 9th Street Suite
209A</st1:address></st1:Street><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Berkeley</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">CA</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode w:st="on">94710</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
510.849.1800 phone<br>
510.849.1900 fax<br>
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Web Site: <a href="http://www.skillful-means.com" target="_blank">http://www.skillful-means.com</a><br>
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