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<DIV>Thanks guys</DIV>
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<DIV>We’ll give it a go</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=jswearingen@skillful-means.com
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:54 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [GSBN] Emerald update (GSBN Digest, Vol 33, Issue
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agree, it's certainly worth a try, if the render has any strength at all, and
the loads on the wall are not great.
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<DIV>John "Half a bale is better than One" Swearingen</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Derek Roff <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:derek@unm.edu">derek@unm.edu</A>></SPAN>
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class=gmail_quote>Hi, Chris,<BR><BR>I wanted to suggest that it may not be
necessary to install the temporary beams and jacks that you describe, to
support the wall while you are replacing the bales (leaving aside, for the
moment, the question of what material will be chosen to replace the
bales). I think you will find that you can pull a single bale out at a
time, leaving empty air, and see no settling of the bales above during the
replacement process. Then install the new material, and move on to
removing the next bale. It's worth an experiment, anyway, in a sample
spot.<BR><BR>This has been done on a number of repairs that I have read about
in The Last Straw, and a couple that I have been personally involved with.
Removing bales from two courses at once might change things, but leaving the
exterior lime plaster intact will transfer a lot of load from the bales
above.<BR><BR>With the bales decaying, you may find that you can remove half a
bale as easily as a whole bale, perhaps more easily. When I have tried
to remove badly decaying straw, it comes out in handfuls, and not in bales, or
even large clumps. There is little strength left, and you can remove the
straw that you grab, but neighboring straw doesn't move much.<BR><BR>Pulling
out half a bale width for the lower two courses of bales, and then inserting
the new material, is even less likely to require any beam and jack
support.<BR><BR>What do others think?<BR><BR>Derelict
<DIV class=im><BR><BR><BR>--On Saturday, February 5, 2011 5:16 PM +1000 Chris
Newton <<A href="mailto:chris@newtonhouse.info"
target=_blank>chris@newtonhouse.info</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>
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class=gmail_quote>My understanding is that they are thinking of leaving the
external<BR>wall of lime intact. A few extra expansion joints before work
starts.<BR>Working segment at a time.<BR>Breaking some holes through the
width of the wall using Lance?s<BR>coring piece.<BR>Placing beams through
these which will be supported by jacks.<BR>Removal of straw below (still
leaving that lime on the
external<BR>surface)<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR></DIV><FONT
color=#888888>Derek Roff<BR>Language Learning Center<BR>Ortega Hall 129,
MSC03-2100<BR>University of New Mexico<BR>Albuquerque, NM
87131-0001<BR>505/277-7368, fax 505/277-3885<BR>Internet: <A
href="mailto:derek@unm.edu" target=_blank>derek@unm.edu</A></FONT>
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