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I have known Derek for many years and know he always brings an exceptional amount of care and intelligence, as well as willingness to do the research and work through the harder issues, and when appropriate, change his mind based on new or better information, evidence and/or experience. </font></font><font size="2"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think the way he has described the intentions of this first exploratory effort is on target. </font></font><font size="2"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think Derek is the right person to help lead this effort</font></font><font size="2"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> and implicitly trust his knowledge, judgment and capabilities. </font></font><br>
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I think building a straw bale structure as part of an exploratory process makes complete sense, and know that's the process Derek has in mind. He's never been a strawbale-construction-will-save-the-world-and-works-everywhere missionary. <br>
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I have another thought to add to the range of things to be considering about what may be appropriate in Haiti. And that is straw-clay blocks, like some of the work that the Steens have done in Mexico. This doesn't require bales, uses a smaller amount of clay to produce blocks that are both much lighter and less fragile that adobe or other mostly earthen materials. The method the Steens and their Mexican partners evolved used a basic concrete post and beam structure - which could be easily adapted for seismic safety - with the straw clay blocks for infill. The result is a mix of insulation and lower mass in a safer wall system. They also saw the micro-enterprise potential for these blocks in Mexico. They also experimented with vaults and domes which could be a later evolution of this system if it proved to be appropriate and effective. <br>
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And as always, I am impressed with and interested in the possibilities offered by Paul Olivier related to rice - both for rice hulls and straw and his integrated approach to problems. <br>
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From: Derek Roff <derek@unm.edu><br>
To: (private, with public archives) Global Straw Building Network <GSBN@greenbuilder.com><br>
Sent: Sat, Feb 20, 2010 8:07 am<br>
Subject: Re: [GSBN] Bales for Haiti<br>
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Thanks to everyone for your suggestions and concerns. We have been
in dozens of hours of discussions, and exchanged hundreds of email
messages, discussing options and looking at possibilities. BWB has
been working with the PAKSBAB folks since 2006, and they do
incredibly good work. It might be surprising to some on this list
how few things anyone working on any international project gets to
simply "decide", and do as would seem best in other situations. <br>
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I share the misgivings that several people have expressed about
moisture and straw in Haiti. On the other hand, the temperature and
humidity in the Port au Prince area are both less than summers in
Houston, and in many parts of Texas, Louisiana, Missouri, Alabama,
Georgia, and Florida. I don't remember resounding indictments of
list members proposing to build with strawbale in some of those
locations. We keep strawbale high on the list of options, because of
its relative earthquake safety. <br>
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It's tough to figure out how to build in a place that has earthquakes
and hurricanes, lacks timber and an earthquake-resistant building
tradition. No material has all the right properties. Thatched
bamboo structures probably come the closest, and they would work if
people were willing to live in them, and replace them every few
years. I don't think this approach will have much appeal. It is an
ironic truth that while people are hesitant to accept a new building
style, they are often even more hesitant to accept a traditional and
appropriate technology, when it seems old-fashioned, vulgar, and is
associated with poor people or country folk. <br>
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I haven't read the newest guidelines on building more
earthquake-resistant structures out of earthen materials. I'm sure
it contains very important information. But I have been to several
presentations on traditional and modern earthen structures and
earthquakes, and I've read many articles. Up to now, the safety
record of earthen structures has been poor when it comes to
earthquakes the size of the one in Haiti, and larger. I've read
Nader Khalili's assertions about earthbags and earthquakes, his
"testing", and I don't have faith in the combination of earthbags and
earthquakes. Perhaps future testing will prove him right, but for
me, building in an earthquake zone with earthbags right now is
accepting big unknowns. I don't see working with that level of
uncertainty as doing a service to Haiti. Building more intelligently
and safely with other earthen materials requires knowledge that few
of us currently possess. I am eager to learn, but not to put
everything on hold while I learn. <br>
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The issue of cultural sensitivity and popular acceptance of a design
is always in the front of our minds as members of BWB consider
intercultural projects. But in a situation like the Haiti disaster,
contradictions are immediately obvious. Much of what we think people
will accept is unsafe, and what is safe will require some changes in
lifestyle, which people might not accept. It's pretty easy to
conclude that there is no good answer, and then to cede the field to
those who are less culturally sensitive and less aware of the risks.
We choose not to do that. Kelly's questions are very important, as
are David's warnings of the risks of unintended consequences from any
actions. Yet in a disaster situation, I also consider the risks
associated with inaction, and with leaving everything up to
institutions like the World Bank. <br>
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The hope for the project that started this thread, is to get one
strawbale building built before the April rains begin. That project
will teach us a great deal about the viability of strawbale building
in Haiti. There will be more things to learn and adjustments to make
in the coming months and years. Maybe it will work, maybe it will
lead to better ideas, maybe it will be a dead end. We are going to
give it a try. To try something without a lot of study first has its
problems, as others have mentioned. Yet learning by doing is often
the most efficient way, and is sometimes the only way to answer
certain questions. Thankfully, we are not required to make policy
for the entire country's disaster relief program. We are supporting
and collaborating on a few small experiments. We hope that some of
them will lead to useful techniques and information that can be
implemented on a broader scale. <br>
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I have studied the hyperbolic acrylic-cement thin-shelled roof
designs that David refers to, and I think they offer great potential.
They don't fit the aesthetic tradition of anywhere, and face a number
of the same cultural sensitivity and acceptance questions that we
have been discussing. Nonetheless, I think they are worthy of
consideration and experimentation. <br>
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Best wishes, <br>
Derelict <br>
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Derek Roff <br>
Language Learning Center <br>
Ortega Hall 129, MSC03-2100 <br>
University of New Mexico <br>
Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001 <br>
505/277-7368, fax 505/277-3885 <br>
Internet: <a href="mailto:derek@unm.edu">derek@unm.edu</a> <br>
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