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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Bill,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>My only concern, and it is a minor one, is that
without the ability to have a "private" conversation among those on the list
(all together), the nomination of a new member to the list is <EM>really</EM> a
<U>selection</U> of that person by the nominator. IOW, if anyone did have
reservations about John Dough's nomination, would they express them, knowing
that John Dough and everyone else would eventually see those
thoughts?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>This is, as I said, a minor issue mostly because
before any of us nominate a new "member," we are pretty good about vetting the
appropriateness of the candidate ourselves. However, the situation could
arise where some very bad and telling experiences with a candidate might
only be known to 2-3 members, and that candidate could then be nominated by one
of us who is ignorant of the negative experiences. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>For example, I had a reasonably good experience
with a straw bale builder, about whom others on this list knew of some
pretty poor experiences. ...experiences that showed this person did
not really have (1) the level of expertise claimed, (2) the commitment to
improving overall construction quality, nor (3) a desire to share and learn as a
community. It was only because of a casual conversation at a CASBA
meeting that I found out of the rest of the story. If I were to have
nominated this person (in my ignorance), I doubt that my well-mannered
colleagues would have spoken up against the nomination - even though they
probably should. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Just my $0.02 worth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Nehemiah</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>From: "Bill Christensen" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:billc@greenbuilder.com"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>billc@greenbuilder.com</FONT></A><FONT size=2
face=Arial>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>To: "(private, with public archives) Global Straw
Building Network" <</FONT><A href="mailto:GSBN@greenbuilder.com"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>GSBN@greenbuilder.com</FONT></A><FONT size=2
face=Arial>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 9:10
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Subject: Re: [GSBN] private vs public archives
(was: Calibration of Balemaster probe)</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT size=2
face=Arial>> At 3:41 PM -0500 11/8/09, </FONT><A
href="mailto:strawnet@aol.com"><FONT size=2
face=Arial>strawnet@aol.com</FONT></A><FONT size=2 face=Arial>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>This makes me wonder if there might be
a way to automate a kind of <BR>>>differentiation of posts - some of which
would not automatically be <BR>>>archived in the public sphere - perhaps
using a key word in the <BR>>>subject line of posts that contain info not
intended for wider <BR>>>distribution. I don't know how feasible that
might be, but I would <BR>>>hope we might find a way to preserve both the
openness of the flow <BR>>>of information and exchange and also preserve
something of a more <BR>>>private/tighter community sharing when that is
appropriate. On the <BR>>>other hand, I don't want to see more burden
placed on Bill C for <BR>>>additional work.<BR>>><BR>>>Either
way, I just want to say how much I have appreciated and <BR>>>continue to
value the existence of this list, the archives, and <BR>>>especially the
members and their contributions. Kudos to Bill for <BR>>>all his work to
keep this list functioning and for making the wealth <BR>>>of information
that has been generated and shared here available to <BR>>>so many
people.<BR>>><BR>>>Warmest regards to you
all,<BR>>><BR>>>David<BR>>><BR>> <BR>> I can't think of
an easy way to implement a separation of private vs <BR>> public
archives. Even if we were to figure out how to define some <BR>>
subject line tag that magically put certain posts in a protected <BR>> area,
my guess is that most on the list would soon forget it or <BR>> forget to use
it. It's not like there's a whole lot of discussion <BR>> here that
really needs to be kept private, and when there is it's <BR>> probably best
just to use direct email to discuss it with the <BR>> relevant members
offlist, and to discuss it on the list with the <BR>> private parts left
out.<BR>> <BR>> Regarding the instant searchability, it's not necessarily
that <BR>> instant. Google indexes sites at varying frequencies.
GSBN doesn't <BR>> get indexed all *that* often, despite how important any of
us think <BR>> our work is. In fact, I just did a completely
non-scientific study <BR>> by searching for various phrases from posts to see
how far back I'd <BR>> need to go before coming up with a match. August
19th matched; <BR>> September 9th didn't. (there was one other post in
that span of time <BR>> which I didn't test, on Aug 21st.)<BR>> <BR>>
So we probably have an average buffer of at least a month before <BR>>
anything posted on GSBN shows up in Google.<BR>> <BR>> Of course anyone
who knows of the GSBN archives can pull them up as <BR>> soon as the post
goes through, and as Derek pointed out that would be <BR>> before any of us
received them in our own mailboxes. I doubt there <BR>> are forces of
straw-evil out lurking out there watching our every <BR>> move, so it doesn't
seem like we'd really need to worry about it much.<BR>> <BR>> I think
we're all pretty aware of the need to be discreet about <BR>> certain aspects
of our discussions - we don't give out owners' names <BR>> when discussing
catastrophic failures which may involve insurance <BR>> companies, for
instance.<BR>> <BR>> As for me, I'm just happy to keep y'all
connected.<BR>> <BR>> Bill "fly on the wall" Christensen<BR>> <BR>>
-- <BR>> Bill Christensen<BR>> </FONT><A
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