I agree with De Wreck. My comments on this thread were directed towards the experienced people on the list, and although I don't regret what I said, I would have phrased things differently had I been talking to him. <br>
<br>John "Words speak Louder" Swearingen<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Derek Roff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:derek@unm.edu">derek@unm.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I am appreciative of Mark's calm, reasoned response to the statements by James. When I read eight negatively-loaded words/phrases in James' one short paragraph, I'm hesitant to say more.<br>
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I'm curious as to how this discussion is developing. Someone forwarded something from this so-called private list, to James, or someone else who eventually got some comments to James. James responded in some way (not directly to Mark), which got to the list manager, who forwarded the message to Mark. Seemingly with an email address that didn't make it into the discussion so far. Not long after receiving Mark's response, I got another GSBN posting from <<a href="mailto:ejgeorge@riseup.net" target="_blank">ejgeorge@riseup.net</a>>. So far as I can tell, this is a reposting of Mark's message, with a different first line and the lack of some of Mark's formatting.<br>
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This list is not secret, but I would like to have an idea of who is involved in a discussion. And as James' response indicates, it is easy to generate bad feelings, or start a flame war, by pulling comments out of the discussion context, and forwarding them to people who don't have experience with nor connection to this list community. I'd like to know who is involved in this discussion, beyond the list members, and how the communication conduit with them is being managed.<br>
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--On Friday, June 19, 2009 8:08 PM -0400 Mark Piepkorn <<a href="mailto:mark@buildinggreen.com" target="_blank">mark@buildinggreen.com</a>> wrote some very nice, calm words, responding to someone named James, who said:<br>
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just saw your comments on my home in hot springs, in regard to my<br>
system of straw bale building... you should really do some research<br>
before you spout off.... I would be glad to clear up all those<br>
missconceptions for you if you would care to engage in some open<br>
dialouge,,, but please get the facts before you condemn,,, reminds<br>
me of all those closed minded rednecks I have all around me. hope<br>
to hear from ya james in hot springs south dakota<br>
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