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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=937244900-17062009><FONT face=Arial
size=2>In South Australia we use steel columns and our strawbale builder wraps
with hessian and we haven't had any problems</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=937244900-17062009><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Bohdan Dorniak</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> GSBN-bounces@greenbuilder.com
[mailto:GSBN-bounces@greenbuilder.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul
Olivier<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 17 June 2009 9:31 AM<BR><B>To:</B> (private,
with public archives) Global Straw Building Network<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[GSBN] Use of and protection - steel columns in bale walls<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I took this risk, and did not see a problem.<BR>The two buildings in
question have been up for over 10 years.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>-- <BR>Paul A.
Olivier PhD<BR>27c Pham Hong Thai, Ward 10<BR>Dalat City<BR>Lam Dong
Province<BR>Vietnam<BR><BR>Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings
Vietnam)<BR>Mobile: 0906941573 (in Vietnam)<BR>Mobile: 84-906941573 (outside
Vietnam)<BR>Skype address: Xpolivier<BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Graeme North <SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">The inclusion of steel
within the body of the straw walls incorporates a potential dew point within
the walls where water may condense and cause deterioration of the straw.
This poses a risk that I would not be willing to take. </SPAN>
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<DIV>Graeme North Architects</DIV>
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<DIV>On 17/06/2009, at 1:09 AM, Joyce Coppinger wrote:</DIV><BR>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">TLS received a request for information about how to
deal with steel columns</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">within a bale wall. The bales will be notched
around the steel columns in a</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">sb infill post-and-beam structure. The question was
do they need to wrap the</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">seel columns prior to stacking the bales - and, if
so, what is the best</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">That's the basic question. Could you also comment
about the use of steel</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">framing with bales - pros and cons, any special
treatment or considerations,</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">moisture issues (condensation), other.</DIV>
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