[GSBN] Reference projects for big scale traffic noise barriers.

Benedikt Kaesberg beka at fasba.de
Tue Mar 26 07:26:10 UTC 2019


Hi Bohdan,

As the German original version is available, the English translation is, 
too. Sorry for wrong information, the translation mustn't be done, in 
fact, it's already done. See attached, especially page 7, 4.2.3.

Best regards

Benedikt



Am 26.03.19 um 01:37 schrieb Bohdan Dorniak:
>
> Hi Benedikt
>
> Thanks for that – unfortunately my German is non-existent!
>
> I spoke to one of our members of AUSBALE and there has been a test 
> done in Australia for  30 minutes fire resistance on 30mm of earth 
> render. AUSBALE are trying to obtain the license to use the test results.
>
> When do you think that the translation will be done? And will this 
> report be readily available to everyone?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bohdan
>
> *From:*Gsbn [mailto:gsbn-bounces at sustainablesources.com] *On Behalf Of 
> *Benedikt Kaesberg
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 March 2019 6:52 PM
> *To:* gsbn at sustainablesources.com
> *Subject:* Re: [GSBN] Reference projects for big scale traffic noise 
> barriers.
>
> Hi Bohdan,
>
> yes, it's quite restrictive to have to comply to specified components 
> in the certificate. In order to have more allowable variations, we 
> asked for an expert opinion. It says that other lime or clay plasters 
> are okay. Right now, there is just the German version (attached). But 
> we want to translate it into English soon.
>
> As far as I know in Germany (and Europe) there is no general fire 
> resistance standard given to a render layer.  Correct me, if I'm 
> wrong. (There are for gipsum boards.)
>
> Best regards
>
> Benedikt
>
> Am 24.03.19 um 23:25 schrieb Bohdan Dorniak:
>
>     Thanks Benedikt
>
>     We has viewed this report previously.
>
>     Our issue here in Australia is to obtain the “Grafix” plaster. It
>     is not available unless imported at a great cost.
>
>     What I was wondering if there  are any approved tests to a
>     government standard of fire resistance of “Plaster” generally to
>     give a 30, 90 fire resistance?
>
>     Kind regards
>
>     Bohdan
>
>     *From:*Gsbn [mailto:gsbn-bounces at sustainablesources.com] *On
>     Behalf Of *Benedikt Kaesberg
>     *Sent:* Saturday, 23 March 2019 6:08 AM
>     *To:* gsbn at sustainablesources.com <mailto:gsbn at sustainablesources.com>
>     *Subject:* Re: [GSBN] Reference projects for big scale traffic
>     noise barriers.
>
>     Hi Bogdan,
>
>     we did some testing in Germany. The test reports are all in
>     German, but the certificate that is based on the test reports has
>     been translated (in Australia). See attached.
>
>     Best regards
>
>     Benedikt
>
>     Am 22.03.19 um 00:00 schrieb Bohdan Dorniak:
>
>         Hi Martin and all
>
>         Are you aware of any testing that has been done on renders for
>         fire?
>
>         Kind regards
>
>         Bohdan
>
>         *From:*Gsbn [mailto:gsbn-bounces at sustainablesources.com] *On
>         Behalf Of *Martin Hammer
>         *Sent:* Friday, 22 March 2019 1:58 AM
>         *To:* Lars Keller; GSBN
>         *Subject:* Re: [GSBN] Reference projects for big scale traffic
>         noise barriers.
>
>         Hi Lars,
>
>         Rick Green, a California farmer and builder (including straw
>         bale) was involved in a SB sound barrier highway wall about 15
>         years ago. Rick did exceptional work over the years and was a
>         good friend of the California straw bale community. He passed
>         away last year at too young an age.
>
>         I’ve attached a photo Rick sent me in 2013 of the SB highway
>         wall, though there is a dearth of information about it, and I
>         don’t know if it even still exists. See my email exchanges
>         with Rick below.
>
>         It seems, from my last email below, someone from the GSBN
>         inquired about this in 2013.
>
>         By the way, a 5 meter high free-standing SB wall has me
>         concerned. I wonder how/if it will be braced for out-of-plane
>         wind loads (and seismic if in a moderate to high seismic
>         location).
>
>         Martin
>
>         */Martin Hammer, Architect
>         /*1348 Hopkins St
>         Berkeley, CA  94702
>
>         510-684-4488 (mobile)
>
>         On 3/20/2013 2:35 AM, martin hammer wrote:
>
>         Hi Rick -
>
>         Did you participate in the construction of a straw bale
>         highway wall in
>         Nevada some years ago, or know anything about it?
>
>         I found this on your website:
>
>         LAS VEGAS VALLEY WATER DISTRICT
>         Las Vegas, NV
>
>         4,000 foot long - 10,000 rice straw bales – sound wall for
>         Hwy. 95. Expected completion 2002.
>
>         Thanks.
>         Martin Hammer
>
>             On 3/20/13 7:59 AM, "Rick Green" <greenstraw at hughes.net
>             <applewebdata://3016B570-DDF9-4C20-9BF3-53CCCFEA653D/greenstraw@hughes.net>>
>             wrote:
>
>             Martin,
>              The project is located at the north end of the Las Vegas
>             Springs Preserve at the junction of Hwy 95 and Valley
>             View.  We did a total of seven buildings within the Desert
>             Living Center made from straw bale, rammed earth, or a
>             combination of the two.  A web search for the Desert
>             Living Center should give you a lot of information.  I
>             will locate some pictures and get them down to you.
>              The wall was built before the buildings and was completed
>             I believe in 2004.  The sections were ten feet wide and
>             varied in height, so we made 1/2 bales here and shipped
>             them as full blocks, to the installers only had to cut the
>             outside added strings, and could then just stack the
>             bales.  There were 10,000 bales total, and I think we made
>             up 4,000 half bales.  The wall is functioning well, and
>             from the Hwy 95 side is very attractive, as it displays
>             colorful precast concrete panels with customizable insets,
>             which advertise coming attractions at the Preserve.
>             The rough surface on the south side of the wall was
>             intentional, to absorb the intense heat, rather than
>             reflect it back on the plants close to it.  As far as
>             sound attenuation, the wall performs very well, as you
>             might expect.
>              I have a lot of first hand information on the Desert
>             Living Center if that is of interest to you.
>             Take care,
>              Rick
>
>             *From: *Martin Hammer <mfhammer at pacbell.net
>             <mailto:mfhammer at pacbell.net>>
>             *Date: *Wednesday, March 20, 2013 at 3:33 PM
>             *To: *Rick Green <greenstraw at hughes.net
>             <mailto:greenstraw at hughes.net>>
>             *Subject: *Re: SB highway wall in Nevada
>
>             Rick -
>
>             I really appreciate this. Amazing wall. I saw drawings of
>             the Desert Living Center on the internet, but no photos.
>             I’m sure I could find photos if I looked. Both the wall
>             and the Desert Living Center are great projects.
>
>             As far as you know, the bales have not rotted?  Assuming
>             it has been a success (performance and relative cost) I
>             wonder why it hasn’t been replicated elsewhere. Do you
>             have a cross-section drawing of the wall that you’re able
>             to share?
>
>             My inquiry came from a colleague in Australia who asked
>             about the highway wall, and is on the Global Straw
>             Building Network (about 120 straw bale building experts
>             from around the world).  Do you have interest in being a
>             member of this group? (with informed, interesting e-mail
>             discussion that ebbs and flows, that you can participate
>             in or not)
>
>             Thanks again.
>
>             Martin
>
>         *From: *Gsbn <gsbn-bounces at sustainablesources.com
>         <mailto:gsbn-bounces at sustainablesources.com>> on behalf of
>         Lars Keller <larskeller at gmail.com <mailto:larskeller at gmail.com>>
>         *Date: *Thursday, March 21, 2019 at 5:41 AM
>         *To: *GSBN <GSBN at SustainableSources.com
>         <mailto:GSBN at SustainableSources.com>>
>         *Subject: *[GSBN] Reference projects for big scale traffic
>         noise barriers.
>
>         *Hi all,*
>
>         I have been contacted by an architect who is researching
>         whether to use straw in a 900m long and 5meter tall noice
>         barrier next to a road.
>
>         Provided there is a dry foundation and a healthy roof i think
>         great yes.
>
>         The architect would love to see, that it has already been done
>         somewhere else in the world.
>
>         I think its been dony many places.
>
>         Can anyone guide me to a good reference project ?
>
>         Best, Lars Keller
>
>         Small Planet
>
>         jomorandin at gmail.com <mailto:jomorandin at gmail.com>
>         larskeller at gmail.com <mailto:larskeller at gmail.com>
>
>         Lars   +45 2024 0505 (mobile/handy)
>
>         Friland 12 B
>         8410 Rønde
>         Danmark
>
>
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