[GSBN] FASBA Fire test 8th January 2014: 8mm Lime plastered straw infill wall successful >90min

Fri Feb 7 19:35:09 UTC 2014

I echo Bruce's comments and would add that our work trying to address the
reality that all foam plastic insulation currently available in the US
contain halogenated flame retardants, which make the products of combustion
for those materials seriously dangerous, not just for the occupants of
buildings or firefighters and first responders but for anyone coming into
contact with the smoke. The dioxins and furans and other resulting products
of combustion are persistent organic pollutants, which bio-accumulate and
have serious human and ecological health impacts.

If you're interested in learning more about that issue you can check out
the Safer Insulation Solution coalition website at www.saferinsulation.org.
Our goal is not to promote the use of foam insulation, but we know that it
will continue to be used and we're trying to minimize the resulting harm.

David Eisenberg
www.dcat.net

On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Bruce EBNet <bruce at ecobuildnetwork.org>wrote:

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> Thank you for the report, and all the hard work!
>
> I agree about offgassing, and share your intent to be transparent about
> everything we know about straw and straw bale buildings, good and bad.
>
> And, while I'm sure that plenty of unpleasant gases and particulates come
> out of burning straw, I bet that, as a whole, the effects are much less
> harmful than the junk that come out of burning modern/industrialized
> building materials, especially plastics and the hundreds of petrochemical
> compounds that we routinely use.
>
> Bruce King, PE
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> On Jan 9, 2014, at 2:23 AM, "Dirk Scharmer" <ds at fasba.de> wrote:
>
> Something to share:
> Yesterday FASBA- Germany tested a straw insulated timber frame wall
> plastered on both sides with "lightened" lime plaster (graefix 73 pajalith
> declared to be 8mm thick), successful over 90 min according to DIN EN
> 1365-1 : 1999-10. Some weeks ago, we had an unsuccessful test of the same
> wall type without any cladding. We had assumed that the straw would be able
> to protect itself with the instantly arising charred surface. This could
> still be true, but we didn't consider that there is an overpressure in the
> burning chamber of 20 Pa when testing according to this standard. The
> uncladded specimen probably failed because of the very hot chamber gazes
> pressed into the burnable straw with 20Pa, and also because oxygen had been
> easily able to penetrate into it because of the absence of any cladding.
> The reason we did this first uncladded test was not to build uncladded, we
> did it because of a buerocratic and safety thing: After a successful test
> it is always only allowed to build exactly as tested if you want to have
> fire resistance acknowledged by authorities. Every detail, every material
> (cladding product...) has to be exactly the same, and we wanted to be free
> to use different types of plasters etc..
>
> With the successful lime plastered test yesterday we'll be allowed to
> build acknowledged REI30 walls this one type of lime plaster additional to
> the use of both sides clay as it has been stated before.
> Both walls had been charged with a load of 112 KN on a length of 3m. The
> requirements for a successful test are mainly: The specimen has to be safe
> in stability and spatial enclosure during the test burning.
>
> Fire safety requirements in Germany roughly summed up:
> <= 2-family house: REI 0 // <=3 storeys and 400sqm: REI 30 // <=5 storeys
> with unit size <400sqm walls has to reach "K2-60":
>
> 3- to 5- storey buildings:
> "K2-60" means that the three straw is 60 min protected ("encapsulated")
> against 200°C and the timber against 270°C during a "full fire". Research
> in the last two years for the 5-storey office in Verden/ Germany showed
> that this encapsulation is possible with, lets say, 50-70mm lime plaster
> and 70-80mm clay plaster (conventionally done by 2x18mm gypsum fire
> protection boards or 2x18mm gypsum fibre boards). The common 30mm lime or
> clay plasters might have a protection against this development of off-ing
> burnable gazes (straw/ timer staring to get brown coloured) for approx.
> 15-30min. Besides that, before a wall is failing during fire resistance
> tests there also could happen incomplete combustion with the danger of
> carbon monoxide poisoning and of course the danger of smoke. These are no
> standard criteria but should be of interest for us.
>
> Besides joyful-to-read-fire-resistance-results:
> Every straw builder and designer should keep in mind that straw insulated
> components (and of course the timber) are burning and off-gazing during a
> fire.That means even though we might have successful REI of 30min and more,
> habitants and fire fighters could be exposed to serious health hazards
> already actually during earlier minutes of a fire depending of the type of
> cladding and proper building details. During the testing yesterday we've
> been accidentally exposed to very high concentrations of carbon monoxide
> beneath the test specimen, enough for a decent headache, this wasn't that
> nice. Fire resistance, at least as it is implemented in Europe, in general
> means only stability and spacial enclosure over a specified time during a
> full fire. Successful tests don't say anything about health hazards during
> fire coming from the building components no matter what they are made of. I
> know, we as enthusiasts don't like these kind of intermediate shadows in
> the bright shining of straw building but if we want to be better than the
> others we have to deal with intermediate tones.
>
> If there is interest:
> If FASBA will receive donations of about 500 EURO in total with subject
> "Translation Fire test 2014" the test report could be published in english
> done by an acknowledged translator.
> Bank: GLS- Gemeinschaftsbank Bochum, Owner: FASBA e.V., Account: 800 7971
> 500, IBAN: DE 82 4306 0967 8007 9715 00, BIC: GENODEM1GLS
> or sending via paypal to info at fasba.de.
>
> Have a healthy, successful year 2014!
>
> Dirk Scharmer - Architect
>
>
> Fachverband Strohballenbau Deutschland e.V.
> FASBA e.V.
> Artilleriestr.6
> D- 27283 Verden
> Email: info at fasba.de
> www.fasba.de
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