[GSBN] The EU wants 5% strawbuildings by 2020 says the Economist..

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Sat Dec 21 01:01:35 UTC 2013


Sorry John, but straw is ABSOLUTELY NOT a waste product - its greatest value is as a soil improver - I can't stress how important that is - even if many "modern" farmers don't seem to agree these days. Farm soils have lost so much organic matter over the last 50 years that it is very a scary situation indeed. Of course, locking up carbon in a super insulated straw wall is the second best thing - and it would be sustainable to use straw for this wonderful purpose every third year or so - in an ideal world!

best wishes
Carol Atkinson
www.strawcottage.co.uk 


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From: John Swearingen <jswearingen at skillful-means.com>
To: Global Straw Building Network <GSBN at sustainablesources.com>
Sent: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 19:50
Subject: Re: [GSBN] The EU wants 5% strawbuildings by 2020 says the Economist..


Jacob's points about supporting local and sustainable business are well taken, but these are choices that we can make, with our pocketbooks, in order to bring about better communities.
 
That said,  I think the bottom line is that straw is a waste product. Unlike wood, it's not grown for construction, and it has limited use--for erosion control (composting) or to spread over muddy paddocks for livestock.  Extra straw, and there is a lot, would likely be burned. 


Following the very sound sustainability principle of "highest and best use", any use of bales for construction involves taking garbage and putting it to good use and that's worthy of support. When you consider that bales sequester carbon, that's an extra benefit.  


John (Trash Talk) Swearingen








On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Jacob Deva Racusin <buildnatural at googlemail.com> wrote:

          
    Valentina,
    
    I appreciate your perspective.  This is a conversation that has come    up a number of times in our courses and conversations with our    colleagues - namely, the roll of agribusiness in providing feedstock    for our construction.  I think 'greenwashing' may be a bit strong,    when I compare to the claims of the concrete and foam industries as    being 'green'.  That said, the impacts must be considered, and the    benefits of using straw in regards to deep ecological and social    impact should not be overstated if the source of straw is not being    considered.  We have access to straw that is grown from medium- and    small-scale farms, which come closer to the higher potential of    working with this material.  It is very analogous to working with    wood -the same framing member can come from a local sawyer    practicing sustainable silviculture, or from a    genetically-engineered clear-cut plantation pine shipped across the    world.
    
    From data I've seen, even industrial straw is a fraction of the    embodied carbon of other common forms of insulation, so context is    relevant when evaluating materials for deep impact. You make an    especially good point about the danger of introducing this material    to industrial scale, and losing more of the benefits/exacerbating    the liabilities in favor of snapping the technology into the mold of    industrial housing/building development.  We would do well as a    community not to lose sight of the importance of scale, and as you    mention the relevance of the social benefits of working with straw.     At the same time, access to a much larger market and making the    technology available to many more people is an arguable net gain,    even if there is a sacrifice for environmental and social impact in    production - again, compared to the alternatives.  I think there is    room for both, and as long as we continue to engage in the debate, I    have confidence that we'll continue to move the ball further down    the field.
    
    Cheers,
    Jacob
    
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On 12/18/13, 12:43 PM, valentina maini      wrote:
    
    
Martin, John, Caroline, and all      
as Herbert Gruber recently suggested on Leonardo group,  this        article maybe very well connected with the EU funded        ( eco-innovation) investigation on @Modcell ....based in the UK        and with BathUniversity support 
      

      
      
I personally got in touch with the founder of this panels in        2011 and met with professionals here in spain that are        collaborating in this EU funded program of analysis and        implementation of this "patent" strawbale panels....i've seen        fantastic software and marketing tools they were presenting at        Eco event in London 2011
      

      
      
>From my point of view and with very recent experiences on        professional development of strawbale in Spain i think and see        this article as a call for action to present the real value of        strawbale and strawbale network..that goes, in my view, very        much beyond the "simple" energy efficiency issue...
      
and i very important reminder for all that straw is not at        all a really safe for the environment product...since is a        byproduct of one of the most contaminated  human "fabric"...as        industrial agriculture ...as very well reminds Luc Foissac in is        great book on strawbale...
      

      
      
from my point of view...The very big risk/reality at the        moment is that straw is used very much as a "simple"        greenwash.....
      
 and even if  i really celebrate the greenwash for what it        means in terms of getting rid of toxic materials...i think and        personally value much more the social innovation related to        strawbale... the ability of people and networks to create        opportunity and solutions.... 
      

      
      
what is happening is just "business as usual" with a more        eco-material... what the strawbale network gave me  me is much        much more than simple "strawbale tech"... i learned.... thank to        you all.... the value and the tools to innovate and collaborate        and manage uncertainty.... and adapt and always look for the        best solution for people, planet...and even profit... 
      

      
      
and personally i'm really convinced that the risk for        environment and quality (equality) in our society is so        big.....,  that is not enough anymore to "change" material...        and hope that the strawbale network (that i value for itself)        can make a huge step and show the world that strawbalers are        bringing much more to community and economy that a "simple"        prefab panel for passive house... a huge step to defend as the        real value the mission and vision of all the pioneers in        strawbale .... at least this is how i see you all ...
      

      
      
hope my english is good enough...and...my mind is getting        clear on this issue just in this lasts months... so hope this        comments are of some interest for you ;-)
      

      
      
best regards to you all, valentina
      
 
      
        
                        
                  
Valentina Maini
                    italy-spain
                                          
                          

                                                          

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